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  &lt;p&gt;Penned by NUJ new media representative &lt;strong&gt;Donnacha DeLong&lt;/strong&gt;, &lt;a href="http://donnachadelong.blogspot.com/2007/10/journalist-article.html"&gt;the article&lt;/a&gt; perfectly sums up the NUJ&#8217;s attitude to the internet, which sits somewhere between confused and fearful. Or inconsequential, if you accept the reality of how the media industry is being forced to change, and - &lt;em&gt;heads up NUJ&lt;/em&gt; - for the better.&lt;/p&gt;
  &lt;p&gt;Let&#8217;s take a look at some excerpts, and please consider this question when you read them: &lt;em&gt;"Who are these dastardly Web 2.0 propagandists?" &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
  &lt;blockquote&gt;
    &lt;p&gt;
      &lt;strong&gt;Comrade DeLong:&lt;/strong&gt;
      &lt;em&gt;&#8220;Isn't increased participation and feedback from our &#8216;users&#8217; -- readers and viewers -- a good thing? Of course it is, but the problem with Web 2.0 is not how it introduces these elements to the media, but how it's seen as replacing traditional media.&#8221;&lt;/em&gt;
    &lt;/p&gt;
  &lt;/blockquote&gt;
  &lt;p&gt;How is&#160;Web 2.0&#160;&#8216;replacing traditional media&#8217; and what exactly does that mean? What is &#8216;traditional&#8217; in this context? And should traditional media never be &#8216;replaced&#8217;? Who perceives this to be happening, apart from the NUJ?&lt;/p&gt;
  &lt;p&gt;I think DeLong starts off on the wrong track here. Nobody in their right mind believes that user comments will &lt;em&gt;replace&lt;/em&gt; traditional media. In fact they existed &lt;em&gt;without&lt;/em&gt; traditional media for many years. They lived on what were popularly known as &#8216;forums&#8217; or &#8216;bulletin boards&#8217; back in the day. Just like DeLong and I, people like to share their views, however irrelevant / ridiculous. It's human nature.&lt;/p&gt;
  &lt;p&gt;The real thing to look at here is how &lt;strong&gt;user participation can help publishers&lt;/strong&gt; (&lt;em&gt;first and foremost&lt;/em&gt;) and journalists (&lt;em&gt;second -&#160;like it or not&lt;/em&gt;). Interaction will help sustain and grow &#8216;traditional&#8217; media products, rather than replacing them. &lt;/p&gt;
  &lt;blockquote&gt;
    &lt;p&gt;
      &lt;strong&gt;Comrade DeLong:&lt;/strong&gt;
      &lt;em&gt;&#8220;Professional media provide users with something that we need to fight to retain &#8211; truly authoritative content.&#8221;&lt;/em&gt;
    &lt;/p&gt;
  &lt;/blockquote&gt;
  &lt;p&gt;Hmmm. &#8216;Truly Authoritative&#8217; is not a synonym for any of the following: &lt;em&gt;100% accurate, 100% commercially independent, 100% unbiased, 100% truthful, 100% fair or 100% interesting&lt;/em&gt;. &lt;/p&gt;
  &lt;p&gt;I could point you at 100 blogs that are &#8216;truly authoritative&#8217;, and 100&#160;big media articles that are not. Experts are experts. Journalists are journalists. Authority is earned by experts, whereas it is&#160;donated to most journalists by association with a top newspaper brand. &lt;/p&gt;
  &lt;blockquote&gt;
    &lt;p&gt;
      &lt;strong&gt;Comrade DeLong:&lt;/strong&gt;
      &lt;em&gt;&#8220;[Professional media has] the ability to produce content that informs and fulfil an essential part of democracy &#8211; the widespread dissemination of information that allows the public to question those in charge.&#8221;&lt;/em&gt;
    &lt;/p&gt;
  &lt;/blockquote&gt;
  &lt;p&gt;I&#8217;d argue that the internet at large does a far better job of disseminating information than a biased media. Like it or not, &lt;em&gt;very few&lt;/em&gt; journalists retain any real sense of objectivity (&lt;em&gt;they can be thwarted by their editors, or the &#8216;house style&#8217; guidelines on what is and isn&#8217;t editorially permissible&lt;/em&gt;). &lt;/p&gt;
  &lt;p&gt;Publishers meanwhile continue to nail flags to &lt;strong&gt;commercial&lt;/strong&gt; and &lt;strong&gt;political&lt;/strong&gt; masts, as they always have done. &#8216;Journalism&#8217; remains joined at the hip with the interests of publishers / advertisers, and I guess that&#8217;s always been so. Readers, who typically possess a brain, would do well to take &lt;em&gt;everything &lt;/em&gt;they read (see or hear) with a large pinch of salt. &lt;/p&gt;
  &lt;p&gt;And what then do we make of social news sources such as Digg, which are entirely user-driven, hugely popular, and generate much discussion? How does that fit into the &#8216;Web 2.0 is rubbish&#8217; argument, especially when Digg is a big shop window for articles published by qualified journalists, potentially driving tens of thousands of visits to these stories? &lt;/p&gt;
  &lt;p&gt;If opinions make the world spin then sites like Digg (&lt;em&gt;which is a hub, not a destination&lt;/em&gt;), as well as user comments on main news stories, are &lt;strong&gt;paramount to educating readers &lt;/strong&gt;and helping people see two &#8211; or ten &#8211; sides to any particular story. Note that this doesn&#8217;t detract in any way from the role of the journalist, who may spark a debate, or provide a pivot point on which other ideas and arguments may arise (such as this very article). &lt;/p&gt;
  &lt;blockquote&gt;
    &lt;p&gt;
      &lt;strong&gt;Comrade DeLong:&lt;/strong&gt;
      &lt;em&gt;&#8220;Those who argue that Web 2.0 is the future want to throw out the baby with the bathwater.&#8221;&lt;/em&gt;
    &lt;/p&gt;
  &lt;/blockquote&gt;
  &lt;p&gt;Who, exactly, is putting forward the argument that 'Web 2.0 is the future' in the sense that it will &lt;em&gt;replace &lt;/em&gt;traditional media? Are these real arguments, or is this the NUJ Anti-Hype Brain Police at work? &lt;/p&gt;
  &lt;blockquote&gt;
    &lt;p&gt;
      &lt;strong&gt;Comrade DeLong:&lt;/strong&gt;
      &lt;em&gt;&#8220;The idea that, instead of posting comments below a journalistic article, we get rid of the article altogether and just have the comments is truly dangerous.&#8221;&lt;/em&gt;
    &lt;/p&gt;
  &lt;/blockquote&gt;
  &lt;p&gt;Again, who on earth would ever suggest such a thing? If you do that on The Times or The Sun, and if I&#8217;m Mr Murdoch, then you&#8217;re fired. Because you just changed my newspaper into a bloody bulletin board.&lt;/p&gt;
  &lt;blockquote&gt;
    &lt;p&gt;
      &lt;strong&gt;Comrade DeLong:&lt;/strong&gt;
      &lt;em&gt;&#8220;In one of the main examples given to explain Web 2.0, Wikipedia replaces Britannica Online. Is that the kind of democracy we want &#8211; where anyone can determine the information that the public can access, regardless of their level of knowledge, expertise or agenda?&#8221;&lt;/em&gt;
    &lt;/p&gt;
  &lt;/blockquote&gt;
  &lt;p&gt;None of this seems linked to the specific 'threat' to journalists from Web 2.0. And that&#8217;s because nobody thinks that newspapers (&lt;em&gt;online or offline ones&lt;/em&gt;) would be remotely interesting were they to be entirely reader-powered. Surely no publisher is considering this as a killer strategic play? They still need journalists and won&#8217;t be asking readers to write their news stories anytime soon. &lt;/p&gt;
  &lt;p&gt;Journalists should not be losing sleep over the fact that Wikipedia might be x% less accurate than Britannica Online. They &lt;em&gt;should&lt;/em&gt; be losing sleep if their publishers are:&lt;/p&gt;
  &lt;blockquote&gt;
    &lt;p&gt;
      &lt;em&gt;a) standing still, &lt;br /&gt;b) taking too long to execute ideas, &lt;br /&gt;c) resisting reader comments and other forms of interaction, and &lt;br /&gt;d) blind to the fact that their business models are changing and need to change...&lt;/em&gt;
    &lt;/p&gt;
  &lt;/blockquote&gt;
  &lt;p&gt;...because that&#8217;s when (more) reporter&#8217;s jobs will be at risk. &lt;/p&gt;
  &lt;p&gt;Now, blessed Union, please &lt;strong&gt;quit with the scaremongering&lt;/strong&gt; and the weird anti-web propaganda, for that&#8217;s what it is. Stop worrying&#160;the flock. The web vs offline brainteaser&#160;isn&#8217;t an either/or choice for publishers. Both should be used to &lt;em&gt;strengthen &lt;/em&gt;business models, and from where we&#8217;re sitting that&#8217;s exactly what most of them are trying to do. &lt;/p&gt;
  &lt;p&gt;So, in nut, Web 2.0 might be 'rubbish' but &lt;strong&gt;it isn't a threat, it is an opportunity&lt;/strong&gt;. &lt;/p&gt;
  &lt;p&gt;
    &lt;strong&gt;Further Reading&lt;/strong&gt;
    &lt;br /&gt;Journalists worried about their roles might want to read &lt;a href="/blog/1815-how-journalists-can-help-journalism"&gt;this article on self-improvement and&#160;becoming web-savvy&lt;/a&gt;. There are no barriers or costs involved, so fear ye not.&lt;/p&gt;
  &lt;p&gt;
    &lt;strong&gt;Blatant, contextual plug&lt;/strong&gt;
    &lt;br /&gt;Publishers worrying themselves to an early grave can look no further than this &lt;a href="http://www.journalism.co.uk/2/articles/530701.php"&gt;sexy initiative between the Periodical Publishers Association and E-consultancy&lt;/a&gt;, which is aimed at senior managers to help them make the most of the web and all it's 2.0 goodness. There are costs involved because&#160;it's very exclusive and should make a real difference. We do in-house staff training for publishers too.&lt;/p&gt;
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  &lt;Paragraph&gt;Penned by NUJ new media representative &lt;Emphasis&gt;Donnacha DeLong&lt;/Emphasis&gt;, &lt;Link URL="http://donnachadelong.blogspot.com/2007/10/journalist-article.html" Window="Self"&gt;the article&lt;/Link&gt; perfectly sums up the NUJ&#8217;s attitude to the internet, which sits somewhere between confused and fearful. Or inconsequential, if you accept the reality of how the media industry is being forced to change, and - &lt;Quote&gt;heads up NUJ&lt;/Quote&gt; - for the better.&lt;/Paragraph&gt;
  &lt;Paragraph&gt;Let&#8217;s take a look at some excerpts, and please consider this question when you read them: &lt;Quote&gt;"Who are these dastardly Web 2.0 propagandists?" &lt;/Quote&gt;&lt;/Paragraph&gt;
  &lt;Block&gt;
    &lt;Paragraph Align="Left"&gt;
      &lt;Emphasis&gt;Comrade DeLong:&lt;/Emphasis&gt;
      &lt;Quote&gt;&#8220;Isn't increased participation and feedback from our &#8216;users&#8217; -- readers and viewers -- a good thing? Of course it is, but the problem with Web 2.0 is not how it introduces these elements to the media, but how it's seen as replacing traditional media.&#8221;&lt;/Quote&gt;
    &lt;/Paragraph&gt;
  &lt;/Block&gt;
  &lt;Paragraph&gt;How is&#160;Web 2.0&#160;&#8216;replacing traditional media&#8217; and what exactly does that mean? What is &#8216;traditional&#8217; in this context? And should traditional media never be &#8216;replaced&#8217;? Who perceives this to be happening, apart from the NUJ?&lt;/Paragraph&gt;
  &lt;Paragraph&gt;I think DeLong starts off on the wrong track here. Nobody in their right mind believes that user comments will &lt;Quote&gt;replace&lt;/Quote&gt; traditional media. In fact they existed &lt;Quote&gt;without&lt;/Quote&gt; traditional media for many years. They lived on what were popularly known as &#8216;forums&#8217; or &#8216;bulletin boards&#8217; back in the day. Just like DeLong and I, people like to share their views, however irrelevant / ridiculous. It's human nature.&lt;/Paragraph&gt;
  &lt;Paragraph&gt;The real thing to look at here is how &lt;Emphasis&gt;user participation can help publishers&lt;/Emphasis&gt; (&lt;Quote&gt;first and foremost&lt;/Quote&gt;) and journalists (&lt;Quote&gt;second -&#160;like it or not&lt;/Quote&gt;). Interaction will help sustain and grow &#8216;traditional&#8217; media products, rather than replacing them. &lt;/Paragraph&gt;
  &lt;Block&gt;
    &lt;Paragraph&gt;
      &lt;Emphasis&gt;Comrade DeLong:&lt;/Emphasis&gt;
      &lt;Quote&gt;&#8220;Professional media provide users with something that we need to fight to retain &#8211; truly authoritative content.&#8221;&lt;/Quote&gt;
    &lt;/Paragraph&gt;
  &lt;/Block&gt;
  &lt;Paragraph&gt;Hmmm. &#8216;Truly Authoritative&#8217; is not a synonym for any of the following: &lt;Quote&gt;100% accurate, 100% commercially independent, 100% unbiased, 100% truthful, 100% fair or 100% interesting&lt;/Quote&gt;. &lt;/Paragraph&gt;
  &lt;Paragraph&gt;I could point you at 100 blogs that are &#8216;truly authoritative&#8217;, and 100&#160;big media articles that are not. Experts are experts. Journalists are journalists. Authority is earned by experts, whereas it is&#160;donated to most journalists by association with a top newspaper brand. &lt;/Paragraph&gt;
  &lt;Block&gt;
    &lt;Paragraph&gt;
      &lt;Emphasis&gt;Comrade DeLong:&lt;/Emphasis&gt;
      &lt;Quote&gt;&#8220;[Professional media has] the ability to produce content that informs and fulfil an essential part of democracy &#8211; the widespread dissemination of information that allows the public to question those in charge.&#8221;&lt;/Quote&gt;
    &lt;/Paragraph&gt;
  &lt;/Block&gt;
  &lt;Paragraph&gt;I&#8217;d argue that the internet at large does a far better job of disseminating information than a biased media. Like it or not, &lt;Quote&gt;very few&lt;/Quote&gt; journalists retain any real sense of objectivity (&lt;Quote&gt;they can be thwarted by their editors, or the &#8216;house style&#8217; guidelines on what is and isn&#8217;t editorially permissible&lt;/Quote&gt;). &lt;/Paragraph&gt;
  &lt;Paragraph&gt;Publishers meanwhile continue to nail flags to &lt;Emphasis&gt;commercial&lt;/Emphasis&gt; and &lt;Emphasis&gt;political&lt;/Emphasis&gt; masts, as they always have done. &#8216;Journalism&#8217; remains joined at the hip with the interests of publishers / advertisers, and I guess that&#8217;s always been so. Readers, who typically possess a brain, would do well to take &lt;Quote&gt;everything &lt;/Quote&gt;they read (see or hear) with a large pinch of salt. &lt;/Paragraph&gt;
  &lt;Paragraph&gt;And what then do we make of social news sources such as Digg, which are entirely user-driven, hugely popular, and generate much discussion? How does that fit into the &#8216;Web 2.0 is rubbish&#8217; argument, especially when Digg is a big shop window for articles published by qualified journalists, potentially driving tens of thousands of visits to these stories? &lt;/Paragraph&gt;
  &lt;Paragraph&gt;If opinions make the world spin then sites like Digg (&lt;Quote&gt;which is a hub, not a destination&lt;/Quote&gt;), as well as user comments on main news stories, are &lt;Emphasis&gt;paramount to educating readers &lt;/Emphasis&gt;and helping people see two &#8211; or ten &#8211; sides to any particular story. Note that this doesn&#8217;t detract in any way from the role of the journalist, who may spark a debate, or provide a pivot point on which other ideas and arguments may arise (such as this very article). &lt;/Paragraph&gt;
  &lt;Block&gt;
    &lt;Paragraph&gt;
      &lt;Emphasis&gt;Comrade DeLong:&lt;/Emphasis&gt;
      &lt;Quote&gt;&#8220;Those who argue that Web 2.0 is the future want to throw out the baby with the bathwater.&#8221;&lt;/Quote&gt;
    &lt;/Paragraph&gt;
  &lt;/Block&gt;
  &lt;Paragraph&gt;Who, exactly, is putting forward the argument that 'Web 2.0 is the future' in the sense that it will &lt;Quote&gt;replace &lt;/Quote&gt;traditional media? Are these real arguments, or is this the NUJ Anti-Hype Brain Police at work? &lt;/Paragraph&gt;
  &lt;Block&gt;
    &lt;Paragraph&gt;
      &lt;Emphasis&gt;Comrade DeLong:&lt;/Emphasis&gt;
      &lt;Quote&gt;&#8220;The idea that, instead of posting comments below a journalistic article, we get rid of the article altogether and just have the comments is truly dangerous.&#8221;&lt;/Quote&gt;
    &lt;/Paragraph&gt;
  &lt;/Block&gt;
  &lt;Paragraph&gt;Again, who on earth would ever suggest such a thing? If you do that on The Times or The Sun, and if I&#8217;m Mr Murdoch, then you&#8217;re fired. Because you just changed my newspaper into a bloody bulletin board.&lt;/Paragraph&gt;
  &lt;Block&gt;
    &lt;Paragraph&gt;
      &lt;Emphasis&gt;Comrade DeLong:&lt;/Emphasis&gt;
      &lt;Quote&gt;&#8220;In one of the main examples given to explain Web 2.0, Wikipedia replaces Britannica Online. Is that the kind of democracy we want &#8211; where anyone can determine the information that the public can access, regardless of their level of knowledge, expertise or agenda?&#8221;&lt;/Quote&gt;
    &lt;/Paragraph&gt;
  &lt;/Block&gt;
  &lt;Paragraph&gt;None of this seems linked to the specific 'threat' to journalists from Web 2.0. And that&#8217;s because nobody thinks that newspapers (&lt;Quote&gt;online or offline ones&lt;/Quote&gt;) would be remotely interesting were they to be entirely reader-powered. Surely no publisher is considering this as a killer strategic play? They still need journalists and won&#8217;t be asking readers to write their news stories anytime soon. &lt;/Paragraph&gt;
  &lt;Paragraph&gt;Journalists should not be losing sleep over the fact that Wikipedia might be x% less accurate than Britannica Online. They &lt;Quote&gt;should&lt;/Quote&gt; be losing sleep if their publishers are:&lt;/Paragraph&gt;
  &lt;Block&gt;
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      &lt;Quote&gt;a) standing still, &lt;LineBreak /&gt;b) taking too long to execute ideas, &lt;LineBreak /&gt;c) resisting reader comments and other forms of interaction, and &lt;LineBreak /&gt;d) blind to the fact that their business models are changing and need to change...&lt;/Quote&gt;
    &lt;/Paragraph&gt;
  &lt;/Block&gt;
  &lt;Paragraph&gt;...because that&#8217;s when (more) reporter&#8217;s jobs will be at risk. &lt;/Paragraph&gt;
  &lt;Paragraph&gt;Now, blessed Union, please &lt;Emphasis&gt;quit with the scaremongering&lt;/Emphasis&gt; and the weird anti-web propaganda, for that&#8217;s what it is. Stop worrying&#160;the flock. The web vs offline brainteaser&#160;isn&#8217;t an either/or choice for publishers. Both should be used to &lt;Quote&gt;strengthen &lt;/Quote&gt;business models, and from where we&#8217;re sitting that&#8217;s exactly what most of them are trying to do. &lt;/Paragraph&gt;
  &lt;Paragraph&gt;So, in nut, Web 2.0 might be 'rubbish' but &lt;Emphasis&gt;it isn't a threat, it is an opportunity&lt;/Emphasis&gt;. &lt;/Paragraph&gt;
  &lt;Paragraph&gt;
    &lt;Emphasis&gt;Further Reading&lt;/Emphasis&gt;
    &lt;LineBreak /&gt;Journalists worried about their roles might want to read &lt;Link URL="/blog/1815-how-journalists-can-help-journalism" Window="Self"&gt;this article on self-improvement and&#160;becoming web-savvy&lt;/Link&gt;. There are no barriers or costs involved, so fear ye not.&lt;/Paragraph&gt;
  &lt;Paragraph&gt;
    &lt;Emphasis&gt;Blatant, contextual plug&lt;/Emphasis&gt;
    &lt;LineBreak /&gt;Publishers worrying themselves to an early grave can look no further than this &lt;Link URL="http://www.journalism.co.uk/2/articles/530701.php" Window="Self"&gt;sexy initiative between the Periodical Publishers Association and E-consultancy&lt;/Link&gt;, which is aimed at senior managers to help them make the most of the web and all it's 2.0 goodness. There are costs involved because&#160;it's very exclusive and should make a real difference. We do in-house staff training for publishers too.&lt;/Paragraph&gt;
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    &lt;strong&gt;Roy Greenslade, who appears to be my favourite blogger du jour, sparked a furore last week after deciding to quit the NUJ after 30 years of membership, a move which makes even more sense once you digest what the NUJ thinks about &#8216;Web 2.0&#8217;.&lt;/strong&gt;
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  &lt;p&gt;The National Union of Journalists&#8217; magazine &#8211; which I don&#8217;t subscribe to, before you get the wrong impression - has a bizarre article in this month&#8217;s issue called &#8216;Web 2.0 Is Rubbish&#8217;. &lt;/p&gt;
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  &lt;Paragraph&gt;The National Union of Journalists&#8217; magazine &#8211; which I don&#8217;t subscribe to, before you get the wrong impression - has a bizarre article in this month&#8217;s issue called &#8216;Web 2.0 Is Rubbish&#8217;. &lt;/Paragraph&gt;
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