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    &lt;a href="http://kara.allthingsd.com/20081124/when-twitter-met-facebook-the-acquisition-deal-that-fail-whaled/"&gt;Kara Swisher cemented the acquisition rumours&lt;/a&gt; in an article subtitled &#8220;The Deal That Fail-Whaled&#8221;, referencing Twitter&#8217;s infamous &#8216;out of action&#8217; whale image (now on the endangered list following some technical improvements).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
The reason why the deal failed? Team Twitter didn't buy into that $15bn valuation, which Facebook acquired after an investment from Microsoft in October 2007.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Twitter has &lt;em&gt;rightly &lt;/em&gt;questioned Facebook&#8217;s value, given that the valuation is effectively more than a year old. A lot has happened since then, particularly at macro level (note to Facebook:&#160;we're about to enter a recession).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
In the past 12 months Facebook may have seen a six-fold growth in usage, but &#8211; and here&#8217;s the kicker &#8211; not in profits. In fact &lt;a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/31/facebooks-growing-problem/"&gt;Facebook is said to be losing money&lt;/a&gt;, and losing big. And despite raising more than half a billion dollars, it may need to raise yet more. That&#8217;s going to be a telling time for the company and it&#8217;s self-assurance, because I can&#8217;t see how that $15bn valuation will hold up if a new investment round materialises. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
I have previously argued that if Facebook thinks it is worth $15bn then it is probably worth about $5bn, based purely on market trends. It&#8217;s the only thing I have so far agreed with Henry Blodget on, ever.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
An article on Venturebeat earlier this month &lt;a href="http://venturebeat.com/2008/11/06/why-hasnt-digg-made-any-progress-its-worth-only-164m-now/"&gt;wagged a finger at Digg&lt;/a&gt; for &#8216;not making any progress&#8217;, despite the fact that its valuation has pretty much held up in a tricky market (&lt;em&gt;it is worth about $164m, based on a recent investment&lt;/em&gt;). &lt;strong&gt;But can Facebook really maintain a nine-digit valuation?&lt;/strong&gt; I doubt it. And here&#8217;s why: the market has dumped on tech stocks in the past year, despite &#8211; in many cases - surging profits and revenues. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Take Google, for example. The poster child of the internet &lt;a href="http://finance.google.co.uk/finance?client=ob&amp;amp;q=NASDAQ:GOOG"&gt;reached a high of $724 in the last 12 months&lt;/a&gt;. At the close of play on Friday it had slumped to a mere $262 per share. Almost two thirds less than $724. Google hasn't done too much wrong to merit this fall, but market sentiment is apparently worth at least 50%&#160;of a company's valuation. There may be a way to go yet (&lt;em&gt;Dow to 6,000, anyone?&lt;/em&gt;). &lt;/p&gt;
  &lt;p&gt;If Facebook really believed in its valuation, had access to funds, and seriously wanted Twitter, then it could &lt;strong&gt;offer $250m in cash&lt;/strong&gt; and I&#8217;d be dumbfounded if the sale didn&#8217;t go through.&lt;/p&gt;
  &lt;p&gt;Strategically, and cash permitting, both companies might do better to hunker down, preserve cash, and wait it out.&lt;/p&gt;
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    &lt;Link URL="http://kara.allthingsd.com/20081124/when-twitter-met-facebook-the-acquisition-deal-that-fail-whaled/" Window="Self"&gt;Kara Swisher cemented the acquisition rumours&lt;/Link&gt; in an article subtitled &#8220;The Deal That Fail-Whaled&#8221;, referencing Twitter&#8217;s infamous &#8216;out of action&#8217; whale image (now on the endangered list following some technical improvements).&lt;LineBreak /&gt;&lt;LineBreak /&gt;
The reason why the deal failed? Team Twitter didn't buy into that $15bn valuation, which Facebook acquired after an investment from Microsoft in October 2007.&lt;LineBreak /&gt;&lt;LineBreak /&gt;
Twitter has &lt;Quote&gt;rightly &lt;/Quote&gt;questioned Facebook&#8217;s value, given that the valuation is effectively more than a year old. A lot has happened since then, particularly at macro level (note to Facebook:&#160;we're about to enter a recession).&lt;LineBreak /&gt;&lt;LineBreak /&gt;
In the past 12 months Facebook may have seen a six-fold growth in usage, but &#8211; and here&#8217;s the kicker &#8211; not in profits. In fact &lt;Link URL="http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/31/facebooks-growing-problem/" Window="Self"&gt;Facebook is said to be losing money&lt;/Link&gt;, and losing big. And despite raising more than half a billion dollars, it may need to raise yet more. That&#8217;s going to be a telling time for the company and it&#8217;s self-assurance, because I can&#8217;t see how that $15bn valuation will hold up if a new investment round materialises. &lt;LineBreak /&gt;&lt;LineBreak /&gt;
I have previously argued that if Facebook thinks it is worth $15bn then it is probably worth about $5bn, based purely on market trends. It&#8217;s the only thing I have so far agreed with Henry Blodget on, ever.&lt;LineBreak /&gt;&lt;LineBreak /&gt;
An article on Venturebeat earlier this month &lt;Link URL="http://venturebeat.com/2008/11/06/why-hasnt-digg-made-any-progress-its-worth-only-164m-now/" Window="Self"&gt;wagged a finger at Digg&lt;/Link&gt; for &#8216;not making any progress&#8217;, despite the fact that its valuation has pretty much held up in a tricky market (&lt;Quote&gt;it is worth about $164m, based on a recent investment&lt;/Quote&gt;). &lt;Emphasis&gt;But can Facebook really maintain a nine-digit valuation?&lt;/Emphasis&gt; I doubt it. And here&#8217;s why: the market has dumped on tech stocks in the past year, despite &#8211; in many cases - surging profits and revenues. &lt;LineBreak /&gt;&lt;LineBreak /&gt;
Take Google, for example. The poster child of the internet &lt;Link URL="http://finance.google.co.uk/finance?client=ob&amp;amp;q=NASDAQ:GOOG" Window="Self"&gt;reached a high of $724 in the last 12 months&lt;/Link&gt;. At the close of play on Friday it had slumped to a mere $262 per share. Almost two thirds less than $724. Google hasn't done too much wrong to merit this fall, but market sentiment is apparently worth at least 50%&#160;of a company's valuation. There may be a way to go yet (&lt;Quote&gt;Dow to 6,000, anyone?&lt;/Quote&gt;). &lt;/Paragraph&gt;
  &lt;Paragraph&gt;If Facebook really believed in its valuation, had access to funds, and seriously wanted Twitter, then it could &lt;Emphasis&gt;offer $250m in cash&lt;/Emphasis&gt; and I&#8217;d be dumbfounded if the sale didn&#8217;t go through.&lt;/Paragraph&gt;
  &lt;Paragraph&gt;Strategically, and cash permitting, both companies might do better to hunker down, preserve cash, and wait it out.&lt;/Paragraph&gt;
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    &lt;strong&gt;Last month Facebook apparently offered Twitter $500m worth of its stock to buy it. Mark Zuckenberg is a known fan of Twitter, having described its &#8216;model&#8217; as &#8216;elegant&#8217; at this year&#8217;s Web 2.0 Summit.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;
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    &lt;Emphasis&gt;Last month Facebook apparently offered Twitter $500m worth of its stock to buy it. Mark Zuckenberg is a known fan of Twitter, having described its &#8216;model&#8217; as &#8216;elegant&#8217; at this year&#8217;s Web 2.0 Summit.&lt;LineBreak /&gt;&lt;/Emphasis&gt;
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  <learn-more-formatted>&lt;p&gt;For background on online PR and social media more generally, It's worth reading our (free to registered users) &lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href="http://econsultancy.com/reports/online-pr-and-social-media-trends-briefing"&gt;Social Media Trends Briefing&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; (June 2009). Econsultancy has also published &lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href="http://econsultancy.com/reports/social-media-and-online-pr-digital-marketing-template-files"&gt;Social Media and Online PR Template Files&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;, which you can adapt and use for your own projects. For innovation in this space, download our &lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href="http://econsultancy.com/reports/innovation-report"&gt;Innovation Report&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</learn-more-formatted>
  <learn-more-unformatted>&lt;p&gt;For background on online PR and social media more generally, It's worth reading our (free to registered users) &lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href="http://econsultancy.com/reports/online-pr-and-social-media-trends-briefing"&gt;Social Media Trends Briefing&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; (June 2009). Econsultancy has also published &lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href="http://econsultancy.com/reports/social-media-and-online-pr-digital-marketing-template-files"&gt;Social Media and Online PR Template Files&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;, which you can adapt and use for your own projects. For innovation in this space, download our &lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href="http://econsultancy.com/reports/innovation-report"&gt;Innovation Report&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</learn-more-unformatted>
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