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Managing Director at Blue Shoots Ltd
22 April 2008 15:05pm
We are currently being swamped by fraudulent orders by people operating out of Spain and Nigeria. Does anyone have any idea how I can block these people as so far they have tried to place £250,000 worth of orders in the past week? Also, is there a police department set up to deal with this? Thanks
Technical Project Manager (MBA, MBCS, CITP, CEng) at Naxtech.com
22 April 2008 16:09pm
Depending on how your site works I may have a solution but would not like to offer it here for everyone to read (I'm guessing the fraudsters from spain and nigeria are reading this too).
Would be happy to provide some advise. Give me a call on 07712 255 379 if you'd like to discuss.
regards,
Denis
www.naxtech.com
CEO at Dyne Consultancy
22 April 2008 18:11pm
Hi Jonathan,
At what stage in your process do you identify that they are fraudsters (without giving too much away) ?
Im not sure what your business is or currently provides, but not everyone from Spain and Nigeria would be fraudsters so whatever process you have, you need to ensure that the rouge traders are sent away and the legitimate ones can still continue trading with you. IP blocking will not work.
What are your processes for verifying and validating a credit card or authorisation of payment? This is an area that I would study and strengthen the process.
As for reporting the crime, your best bet is to get in touch with the local police in your area and see what they can do, they should have at least one or two detectives who work on e-crime or organised crime. If that does not help or you dont get much further try http://www.soca.gov.uk/index.html and see if anyone can help you.
If you want to talk further then send us an email and we can discuss your buying process and how to strengthen it against rogue buyers.
By the way I got scammed couple of K on my credit card this Xmas so I understand your pain, the transactions took place in China, and no I did not visit that country!
Hanif Rehman
hanif.rehman@dyneconsultancy.com
www.dyneconsultancy.com
MD at adlodge.com
25 April 2008 22:45pm
Hi Jonathan,
our company offers a solutions to detect fraud mechanism patterns. Currently this part of our technology is highly successfull on paid online panels, where people try to earn money by filling out paid surveys with different nicknames and e-mail adresses. With our technology 50-100 panel users are cicked out daily, and the quality of service has improved dramatically. If you wish further details, please write me at and we might drop in line together, how it works and what your problems have been in the past. There are different ways of handling fraudulent orders, depending on their patterns of behaviour.
Cheers
Josef
Director at The Virtual Marketing Company
29 April 2008 14:39pm
we block country IP ranges and then specifically the IPs of anyone who makes a fraudulent transaction.
It's a quick and dirty solution that seems to work for us
Managing Director at Blue Shoots Ltd
29 April 2008 14:46pm
How do you get lists of country IP addresses?
jonathan
On 14:39:07 29 April 2008 fionamaclean wrote:
CEO at Dyne Consultancy
29 April 2008 15:37pm
Hi Jonathan, you need to modify the .htaccess, this file usually resides at your websites root folder.
If you do not have a .htaccess document on your server you need to create one.
The easiest way to create an .htaccess document is to create a document in notepad and call it i.e. htaccess.txt. Past the blocking information into this the document (listed below). Following you upload htaccess.txt on to your server with your favorite FTP client. Once uploaded you rename the htaccess.txt document to .htaccess. (Note: take care that the dot is kept before htaccess).
The list of IPs are based on Nigeria, do note this is going to block Nigeria as a whole and was generated automatically by an IP address tracking software.<Limit GET HEAD POST>
order allow,deny
deny from 41.204.224.0/19
deny from 41.205.160.0/19
deny from 41.206.0.0/19
deny from 41.206.224.0/19
deny from 41.211.192.0/18
deny from 41.220.64.0/20
deny from 41.222.40.0/21
deny from 41.222.64.0/21
deny from 41.222.72.0/21
deny from 41.223.24.0/22
deny from 41.223.64.0/22
deny from 41.223.128.0/22
deny from 41.223.136.0/22
deny from 62.173.32.0/19
deny from 62.193.160.0/19
deny from 80.248.0.0/20
deny from 80.250.32.0/20
deny from 82.128.0.0/17
deny from 195.166.224.0/19
deny from 196.1.176.0/20
deny from 196.3.60.0/22
deny from 196.3.180.0/22
deny from 196.29.208.0/20
deny from 196.45.192.0/18
deny from 196.46.144.0/22
deny from 196.46.240.0/21
deny from 196.200.0.0/20
deny from 196.200.64.0/20
deny from 196.200.112.0/20
deny from 196.202.224.0/21
deny from 196.207.0.0/20
deny from 196.207.128.0/18
deny from 196.216.144.0/22
deny from 196.216.148.0/22
deny from 196.220.0.0/19
deny from 212.100.64.0/19
deny from 217.14.80.0/20
deny from 217.78.64.0/20
deny from 217.117.0.0/20
deny from 81.18.32.0/20
deny from 81.24.0.0/20
deny from 213.166.160.0/19
deny from 213.181.64.0/19
allow from all
</LIMIT>
Hope it helps, but do note its blocking the country Nigeria as a whole.
Kind regards,
Hanif
Director at The Virtual Marketing Company
29 April 2008 15:42pm
not sure where my previous post went...
we use www.ip2location.com we have an annual subscription.
it's not infallible because of proxy IPs but it does help
CEO at Dyne Consultancy
29 April 2008 15:55pm
Managing Director at Blue Shoots Ltd
29 April 2008 16:00pm
Many thanks - I will try it
On 15:55:52 29 April 2008 HanifRehman wrote: