1. Ashley Friedlein Staff

    CEO at Econsultancy

    16 December 2005 17:49pm

    Ashley Friedlein

    What kinds of figures are other sites seeing for Firefox usage?

    Charles Upsdell's Browser News estimates that around 10% of users have Gecko-based browsers (principally Firefox).

    These Adtech figures show Firefox penetration at over 12% up from 8% in March this year (2005). 

    On this site (E-consultancy.com) we've seen the percentage of our users with Firefox go from around 5% at the beginning of the year to just over 12% now. 

    However, we've also seen the penetration rate plateau. It's been around 12% for the last 4 months and hasn't really changed in that time. Most other commentators reckon it's plateaued too. 

    Our site is likely to have a disproportionately large number of Firefox users, so I'd imagine the % for a standard consumer site in the UK must be around 5%-8% at the moment?

    Ashley Friedlein
    CEO, E-consultancy.com 

  2. Paul Walsh

    CEO at Segala

    16 December 2005 18:25pm

    Paul Walsh

    Hi Ashley,

    Your figures are pretty accurate - they will vary from country to country however and user base to user base.

    Firefox users tend to be a little more technically aware than the average user – I’m not sure why, perhaps its because they appreciate the advantages it has over other browsers.

    The figures I see coming through are typically 9% but increasing slowly after taking a dip last year when the figure was around 10%.

    Whilst we’re on the subject, I’d like to provide Ian Hayward with the credit he deserves – it was Ian and his colleagues that worked around the clock so Mozilla could release 1.5 on 29th November 2005! I would also like to take this opportunity to kindly ask him to revert back to Segala’s extension ;)

    Paul
    Segala

    On 17:49:45 16 December 2005 Ashley wrote:

    What kinds of figures are other sites seeing for Firefox usage?

    Charles Upsdell's Browser News estimates that around 10% of users have Gecko-based browsers (principally Firefox).

    These Adtech figures show Firefox penetration at over 12% up from 8% in March this year (2005). 

    On this site (E-consultancy.com) we've seen the percentage of our users with Firefox go from around 5% at the beginning of the year to just over 12% now. 

    However, we've also seen the penetration rate plateau. It's been around 12% for the last 4 months and hasn't really changed in that time. Most other commentators reckon it's plateaued too. 

    Our site is likely to have a disproportionately large number of Firefox users, so I'd imagine the % for a standard consumer site in the UK must be around 5%-8% at the moment?

    Ashley Friedlein
    CEO, E-consultancy.com 

  3. Andrew Allfrey

    eTail Optimisation Specialist at Click Funnel Ltd

    19 December 2005 09:57am

    Andrew Allfrey

    Hi there,

    Unfortuntaely it looks like the new Internet Explorer Version 7 is going to be pretty damn good so unless Microsoft messes up in a big way I can't see Firefox advancing much further. Opera is perhaps one to look out for now.... as it seems to have got rid of its advertising and sponsorship within it's free version.

    I have to say that I use Firefox primarily because of it's great add-ons, which makes site optimisation and analysis a whole lot quicker.

    Andrew Allfrey
    www.e-prominence.co.uk

    On 18:25:15 16 December 2005 PaulWalsh wrote:

    Hi Ashley,

    Your figures are pretty accurate - they will vary from country to country however and user base to user base.

    Firefox users tend to be a little more technically aware than the average user – I’m not sure why, perhaps its because they appreciate the advantages it has over other browsers.

    The figures I see coming through are typically 9% but increasing slowly after taking a dip last year when the figure was around 10%.

    Whilst we’re on the subject, I’d like to provide Ian Hayward with the credit he deserves – it was Ian and his colleagues that worked around the clock so Mozilla could release 1.5 on 29th November 2005! I would also like to take this opportunity to kindly ask him to revert back to Segala’s extension ;)

    Paul
    Segala

    On 17:49:45 16 December 2005 Ashley wrote:

    What kinds of figures are other sites seeing for Firefox usage?

    Charles Upsdell's Browser News estimates that around 10% of users have Gecko-based browsers (principally Firefox).

    These Adtech figures show Firefox penetration at over 12% up from 8% in March this year (2005). 

    On this site (E-consultancy.com) we've seen the percentage of our users with Firefox go from around 5% at the beginning of the year to just over 12% now. 

    However, we've also seen the penetration rate plateau. It's been around 12% for the last 4 months and hasn't really changed in that time. Most other commentators reckon it's plateaued too. 

    Our site is likely to have a disproportionately large number of Firefox users, so I'd imagine the % for a standard consumer site in the UK must be around 5%-8% at the moment?

    Ashley Friedlein
    CEO, E-consultancy.com 

  4. David Farrell-Shaw Silver

    Online Channel Manager at Sangamo Ltd

    20 December 2005 08:07am

    David Farrell-Shaw

    At Scottish Enterprise Firefox is hovering around the 10% mark - well up on last year. However , as we get a lot of traffic from businesses and educational establishments ( and given most have an IT lockdown policy on software installs) I wouldn't expect this figure to rise much. At home I wouldn't use anything else but Firefox.

    David Shaw
    managing editor
    Scottish Enterprise.com
     

    On 09:57:30 19 December 2005 AndrewAllfrey wrote:

    Hi there,

    Unfortuntaely it looks like the new Internet Explorer Version 7 is going to be pretty damn good so unless Microsoft messes up in a big way I can't see Firefox advancing much further. Opera is perhaps one to look out for now.... as it seems to have got rid of its advertising and sponsorship within it's free version.

    I have to say that I use Firefox primarily because of it's great add-ons, which makes site optimisation and analysis a whole lot quicker.

    Andrew Allfrey
    www.e-prominence.co.uk

    On 18:25:15 16 December 2005 PaulWalsh wrote:

    Hi Ashley,

    Your figures are pretty accurate - they will vary from country to country however and user base to user base.

    Firefox users tend to be a little more technically aware than the average user – I’m not sure why, perhaps its because they appreciate the advantages it has over other browsers.

    The figures I see coming through are typically 9% but increasing slowly after taking a dip last year when the figure was around 10%.

    Whilst we’re on the subject, I’d like to provide Ian Hayward with the credit he deserves – it was Ian and his colleagues that worked around the clock so Mozilla could release 1.5 on 29th November 2005! I would also like to take this opportunity to kindly ask him to revert back to Segala’s extension ;)

    Paul
    Segala

    On 17:49:45 16 December 2005 Ashley wrote:

    What kinds of figures are other sites seeing for Firefox usage?

    Charles Upsdell's Browser News estimates that around 10% of users have Gecko-based browsers (principally Firefox).

    These Adtech figures show Firefox penetration at over 12% up from 8% in March this year (2005). 

    On this site (E-consultancy.com) we've seen the percentage of our users with Firefox go from around 5% at the beginning of the year to just over 12% now. 

    However, we've also seen the penetration rate plateau. It's been around 12% for the last 4 months and hasn't really changed in that time. Most other commentators reckon it's plateaued too. 

    Our site is likely to have a disproportionately large number of Firefox users, so I'd imagine the % for a standard consumer site in the UK must be around 5%-8% at the moment?

    Ashley Friedlein
    CEO, E-consultancy.com 

  5. Mike Baxter Silver

    MD at Sales Logiq

    24 December 2005 12:20pm

    Mike Baxter

    Explorer popularity is much smaller than many browser stats would lead us to believe, according to this research (http://www.bazon.net/mishoo/articles.epl?art_id=958). The essence of the story is if a web page contains multiple copies of the same image, Explorer make multiple calls to the server instead of checking the browser cache first, as all the other (better behaved) browsers do. 

    So could all of our assumptions about the dominance of Explorer be based on unreliable browser stats? Or is this just one more Microsoft conspiracy theory?

    Anyone got any evidence one way or the other?

    Happy Xmas

    Mike Baxter
    www.saleslogiq.com

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