1. John Chacksfield

    Director at www.sharpmonkeys.co.uk

    02 August 2005 09:08am

    John Chacksfield

    hi all,

    I am looking at web ceo and webposition gold to analyse search engine positions , anyone got any other good receommendations? I am particuarly interested in UK engine positions-any ideas would be good-kind regards John

  2. Ashley Friedlein Staff

    CEO at Econsultancy

    02 August 2005 12:49pm

    Ashley Friedlein

    Hi John

    Internally we use Advanced Web Ranking (http://www.advancedwebranking.com/) for reporting on, and analysing, our search engine positions. We've found it to be very good although when its running a single PC you can't really do much else at the same time (so we run it over night). 

    We used to use WebPosition Gold a while back. This may have moved on since we used it but we've found the Advanced Web Ranking software to be better.

    Ashley

    On 09:08:29 2 August 2005 JohnChacksfield wrote:

    hi all,

    I am looking at web ceo and webposition gold to analyse search engine positions , anyone got any other good receommendations? I am particuarly interested in UK engine positions-any ideas would be good-kind regards John

  3. Jonathan Wright Silver

    Interim Director/Head of Digital, eCommerce & Online Marketing Consultant at Freelance

    05 August 2005 17:12pm

    Jonathan Wright

    We also use Advance Web Ranking, having looked at all the others and tried a few out we picked this one and are happy with it.

  4. John Graham

    Technical Sales Manager at Cheshire Building Society

    01 December 2005 15:32pm

    John Graham

    Hello,

    Are there any downsides to using tools like Webposition Gold?

    Do any of the major search engines look badly on sites using automated search ranking? We've heard rumours that it can have an adverse effect on your ranking and can even lead to a ban from search indexes.

    Is there any truth in this?

    Thanks in advance

  5. Jonathan Wright Silver

    Interim Director/Head of Digital, eCommerce & Online Marketing Consultant at Freelance

    01 December 2005 16:01pm

    Jonathan Wright

    No it's a myth, which I assume is put around by companies trying to sell seo services. 
    I could go into the whys and wherefores of why it isn't true but I don't think there is any need here. Suffice to say that if you exceed the max number of queries a search engine sets, all they do is stop returning the results to the software you use. If you try it again tomorrow the query will run until it hits the limit again. They do not penalise your site in any way.

    If you use a tool like AWR you can easily stop this from happening by 'throttling' your queries and also obtaining and using the API keys supported by Google & Yahoo which effectively allows you to submit more queries.

    Hopes this helps.

  6. Andrew Allfrey

    eTail Optimisation Specialist at Click Funnel Ltd

    01 December 2005 17:55pm

    Andrew Allfrey

    Hi there,

    I beg to differ on this point. This is an extract from Googles own webmaster Guidleines... so best not to use this type of software. Definitely not with Google anyway.

    http://www.google.co.uk/intl/en/webmasters/guidelines.html

    Do not use unauthorised computer programs to submit pages, check rankings, etc. Such programs consume computing resources and violate our Terms of Service. Google does not recommend the use of products such as WebPosition Gold™ that send automatic or programmatic queries to Google.

    I would say that that is fairly self explanatory however, and better safe than sorry comes to mind

    Andrew Allfrey
    http://www.e-prominence.co.uk

    On 16:01:48 1 December 2005 paradox wrote:


    No it's a myth, which I assume is put around by companies trying to sell seo services. 
    I could go into the whys and wherefores of why it isn't true but I don't think there is any need here. Suffice to say that if you exceed the max number of queries a search engine sets, all they do is stop returning the results to the software you use. If you try it again tomorrow the query will run until it hits the limit again. They do not penalise your site in any way.

    If you use a tool like AWR you can easily stop this from happening by 'throttling' your queries and also obtaining and using the API keys supported by Google & Yahoo which effectively allows you to submit more queries.

    Hopes this helps.

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