We recently worked over an ecommerce site that was doing a reasonable amount of business but nothing spectacular. The new site looks better and wherever there is a difference, works better. For example the search is much faster.
There are obviously things you could argue with (like the home page text and the need for a mini-registration before you place the order). However these are the same as the old site as far as I can tell. We don't want to change any of these things until we have sorted what must be a fundemental problem.
We don't do PPC on this site, but traffic levels compared to last year are very similar.
I would appreciate any insights as to what we did wrong.
In your traffic reporting have you considered any drop out points during the purchasing process as there may be a problem area(s). It may also be worthwhile to do some user experience testing to find out how the average visitor uses the site, what areas they automatically choose and which ones they don't. Also I noticed from the home page its not obvious that you are selling anything, so perhaps a well placed 'feature product' may encourage visitors to delve further into the store as everything blends a little to well and there is no clear call to action, so perhaps in the blue highlight colour. Finally, vary the text size a little, again everything is the same size so its not clear what the important messages that you are trying to convey are.
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Two things struck me immediatley; clicking on order tells me to log in - and the text is so pale I had to strain to read it.
Had I not been responding to your post I would've hit back instantly!
Also there is no easily identifiable strapline or intro summing up what it is that you do.
I would recommend you do some usability testing with some task analysis and work out what call to action you want people to undertake and then systematically remove all barriers to them acheiving it.
But then that's just me...
On 15:50:23 3 October 2007 DavidMcLean wrote:
Hi
In your traffic reporting have you considered any drop out points during the purchasing process as there may be a problem area(s). It may also be worthwhile to do some user experience testing to find out how the average visitor uses the site, what areas they automatically choose and which ones they don't. Also I noticed from the home page its not obvious that you are selling anything, so perhaps a well placed 'feature product' may encourage visitors to delve further into the store as everything blends a little to well and there is no clear call to action, so perhaps in the blue highlight colour. Finally, vary the text size a little, again everything is the same size so its not clear what the important messages that you are trying to convey are.
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This is the same as the old system so doesn't account for the drop-off, although we could make the text clearer - thank you for that.
This caused us some soul-searching at the time. We had a large number of abandoned carts and decided to ask for minimal details when the item is added to the cart (name,country,phone number) and then phone them afterwards. The logic was that we might lose some orders but could more than make up for this in the conversions from people who abandoned their cart.
It seemed to go well initially and so we kept it. However it seems that the client is not doing the follow-up any more due to staff movements, so we will get rid of this.
From a survey of about 15 abandoned carts on the new system:
I've seen a temp drop off in sales when a radical redesign occured on a a site i worked with - it was 25% week 1, 15% week 2 and then back to normal. How long has this been for?
Aside from that:
- the name is diff - i looks like 2 diff websites - are people thinking they've arrived at the wrong place. Has the homepage bounce rate gone up?
- exactly where are people dropping out. Do you get the same number of people to the 'product description' page as before (e.g. 25% of visits) or are they lower. After this point are they dropping from diff part of the buy process (e.g. more people dropping before they get to the credit card page etc.) - Analytics should allow you to compare the purchase flow of the old with new to see at what point they are dissappearing.
- the new site is slicker - but the nav of the left is less prominent and most of the homepage content distracts from the task in hand - finding the products for sale. Recently i changed a site to place all the key product categories in the middle of the homepage to great effect on sales conversion
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new version has diff name, creating confusion... not clear what you do... a tick with cms next to it, so is this a website that does content management systems?
what does biz-lib.com have to do with cmsinfo? Inconsistency could cause lack of confidence in the users.
Homepage really tell the user that they can buy stuff. The content starts by talking about CMS's location and history which could potentially switch users off.
'Hot news' on the right hand side column is misleading. Isn't it more about products than news?
Clicking Buy has a very slow response (30 seconds for me).
you have had some good replies but i thought i would add my feedback in case it helps. I am facinated by the challenge in understanding what makes a page/site "work or tick" - and empathise i am in the process of making my own improvements to achieve the same goal.
For me your original site Home Page got the key business message (what cms does much more strongly - large type, bold and "business information" used twice. The new site has two shorter less explicit lines followed by a much much bigger graphic of the office. I know it was there before (and i wondered why an online portal was emphasising the office location) but in fact that was were my eye was drawn first. I too was confused on the names (cms and biz-lib). On my screen i could not easily see the all the words in the sentences clearly (last few letters) and i can on the old one. Hope fedback helps.
PS there is a typo in "publications" on the Home Page at the bottom.
On 12:27:35 3 October 2007 textor wrote:
We recently worked over an ecommerce site that was doing a reasonable amount of business but nothing spectacular. The new site looks better and wherever there is a difference, works better. For example the search is much faster.
There are obviously things you could argue with (like the home page text and the need for a mini-registration before you place the order). However these are the same as the old site as far as I can tell. We don't want to change any of these things until we have sorted what must be a fundemental problem.
We don't do PPC on this site, but traffic levels compared to last year are very similar.
I would appreciate any insights as to what we did wrong.
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Retired at Retired
03 October 2007 12:27pm
We recently worked over an ecommerce site that was doing a reasonable amount of business but nothing spectacular. The new site looks better and wherever there is a difference, works better. For example the search is much faster.
So why have sales dropped off a cliff?
The old site is here: http://bizlib.server2.textor.com (mostly working but you can't buy anything). The new site here http://www.bizlib.com
There are obviously things you could argue with (like the home page text and the need for a mini-registration before you place the order). However these are the same as the old site as far as I can tell. We don't want to change any of these things until we have sorted what must be a fundemental problem.
We don't do PPC on this site, but traffic levels compared to last year are very similar.
I would appreciate any insights as to what we did wrong.
E-Business Consultant at Dan Barker
03 October 2007 12:32pm
you say 'sales' have dropped off a cliff. has traffic dropped too?
Retired at Retired
03 October 2007 14:10pm
Traffic levels compared to last year are very similar. Hardly a fag packet between them.
SEO Manager at Skyscanner
03 October 2007 15:50pm
Hi
In your traffic reporting have you considered any drop out points during the purchasing process as there may be a problem area(s).
It may also be worthwhile to do some user experience testing to find out how the average visitor uses the site, what areas they automatically choose and which ones they don't.
Also I noticed from the home page its not obvious that you are selling anything, so perhaps a well placed 'feature product' may encourage visitors to delve further into the store as everything blends a little to well and there is no clear call to action, so perhaps in the blue highlight colour. Finally, vary the text size a little, again everything is the same size so its not clear what the important messages that you are trying to convey are.
Please feel free to contact me if you would like any other assitance
David McLean
Outscope Limited
david@outscope.com
Web Marketing Manager at www.venuebirmingham.com
03 October 2007 15:59pm
Two things struck me immediatley; clicking on order tells me to log in - and the text is so pale I had to strain to read it.
Had I not been responding to your post I would've hit back instantly!
Also there is no easily identifiable strapline or intro summing up what it is that you do.
I would recommend you do some usability testing with some task analysis and work out what call to action you want people to undertake and then systematically remove all barriers to them acheiving it.
But then that's just me...
On 15:50:23 3 October 2007 DavidMcLean wrote:
Retired at Retired
05 October 2007 13:58pm
This is the same as the old system so doesn't account for the drop-off, although we could make the text clearer - thank you for that.
This caused us some soul-searching at the time. We had a large number of abandoned carts and decided to ask for minimal details when the item is added to the cart (name,country,phone number) and then phone them afterwards. The logic was that we might lose some orders but could more than make up for this in the conversions from people who abandoned their cart.
It seemed to go well initially and so we kept it. However it seems that the client is not doing the follow-up any more due to staff movements, so we will get rid of this.
From a survey of about 15 abandoned carts on the new system:
2 confused
4 attempted fraud
8 non contactable
Bob
Textor
New Media Consultant at massio limited
05 October 2007 19:58pm
I've seen a temp drop off in sales when a radical redesign occured on a a site i worked with - it was 25% week 1, 15% week 2 and then back to normal. How long has this been for?
Aside from that:
- the name is diff - i looks like 2 diff websites - are people thinking they've arrived at the wrong place. Has the homepage bounce rate gone up?
- exactly where are people dropping out. Do you get the same number of people to the 'product description' page as before (e.g. 25% of visits) or are they lower. After this point are they dropping from diff part of the buy process (e.g. more people dropping before they get to the credit card page etc.) - Analytics should allow you to compare the purchase flow of the old with new to see at what point they are dissappearing.
- the new site is slicker - but the nav of the left is less prominent and most of the homepage content distracts from the task in hand - finding the products for sale. Recently i changed a site to place all the key product categories in the middle of the homepage to great effect on sales conversion
hope that helps
Robin G
Director at LiaiseOnline Limited
07 October 2007 21:19pm
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new version has diff name, creating confusion... not clear what you do... a tick with cms next to it, so is this a website that does content management systems?
Director at Software Testing Club
08 October 2007 02:12am
The main things that stand out to me are:
- what does biz-lib.com have to do with cmsinfo? Inconsistency could cause lack of confidence in the users.
- Homepage really tell the user that they can buy stuff. The content starts by talking about CMS's location and history which could potentially switch users off.
- 'Hot news' on the right hand side column is misleading. Isn't it more about products than news?
- Clicking Buy has a very slow response (30 seconds for me).
Regards,Rosie Sherry
Software Testing Club
http://blog.drivenqa.com
Owner at Head Higher
08 October 2007 18:48pm
Hi Bob,
you have had some good replies but i thought i would add my feedback in case it helps. I am facinated by the challenge in understanding what makes a page/site "work or tick" - and empathise i am in the process of making my own improvements to achieve the same goal.
For me your original site Home Page got the key business message (what cms does much more strongly - large type, bold and "business information" used twice.
The new site has two shorter less explicit lines followed by a much much bigger graphic of the office. I know it was there before (and i wondered why an online portal was emphasising the office location) but in fact that was were my eye was drawn first.
I too was confused on the names (cms and biz-lib).
On my screen i could not easily see the all the words in the sentences clearly (last few letters) and i can on the old one.
Hope fedback helps.
PS there is a typo in "publications" on the Home Page at the bottom.
On 12:27:35 3 October 2007 textor wrote: