1. Rowan Heasley

    Founding Partner at Naked Penguin Boy Ltd

    24 March 2006 17:50pm

    Rowan Heasley

    Hi All,

    I wonder if someone can help, I am trying to find out what the law is with regards to public chat rooms and one to one instant messenger type applications. I suppose one could include forums in this topic too.

    The worry comes in if the chat rooms are aimed at minors and undesireable adults of a certain nature attempt to enter. Is the law different for one to one messenger applications?
    Swearing etc we can block most of so I am not too worried about that.

    Is there a specific law which I can read or at least some standards and if so do these only apply to the UK or a specific country or are there general rules I can abide by?

    Many thanks for any assistance.

    Rowan
    Commercial Director
    Naked Penguin Boy
    www.nakedpenguinboy.com

  2. Paul Walsh

    CEO at Segala

    24 March 2006 18:15pm

    Paul Walsh

    Are you looking for legal stuff for running chat rooms, or are you looking for advice on how to control access to inappropriate content? Do you want to know if a provider is obliged to offer a complaints procedure for example?

    Are you speaking from a provider or user perspective?

    I'm afraid I've asked you more questions than you :)

    Paul

  3. Rowan Heasley

    Founding Partner at Naked Penguin Boy Ltd

    24 March 2006 18:32pm

    Rowan Heasley

    Hi Paul,

    Thanks for the interest, I am looking for the legal stuff for running a chat room. One of my clients would like to have one but their target market is quite young and they wish to know what the law is and what T&C's they would therefore need.

    Yes that would also include things like would I need a complaints procedure.

    Thanks
    Rowan

    On 18:15:50 24 March 2006 PaulWalsh wrote:

    Are you looking for legal stuff for running chat rooms, or are you looking for advice on how to control access to inappropriate content? Do you want to know if a provider is obliged to offer a complaints procedure for example?

    Are you speaking from a provider or user perspective?

    I'm afraid I've asked you more questions than you :)

    Paul

  4. Rob Marcus

    Principal at London Business Advisor

    28 March 2006 16:08pm

    Rob Marcus

    Ah, well, in one sense there are no laws at all, but lots of laws cover this field.

    For certain websites or other digital environments where the audience may be young,  the Protection of Children Act 1978 and 1999, Sexual Offences Act 2003, and Protection from Harassment Act 1997 will all have some relevance. On this theme, note that the DfES is currently sponsoring a bill through Parliament right now, the 'Safeguarding Vulnerable People Bill', that will require Criminal Record Bureau checks to be performed to Enhanced Level on all moderators dealing with vulnerable (read 'young' in this case) people online.

    Perhaps more importantly, you would have a 'duty of care' to perform. 

    Look, this is a wide area. I'll ring you about it!!

    Rob
    Chat Moderators
    London
    www.chatmoderators.com

    On 17:50:42 24 March 2006 RowanHeasley wrote:

    Hi All,

    I wonder if someone can help, I am trying to find out what the law is with regards to public chat rooms and one to one instant messenger type applications. I suppose one could include forums in this topic too.

    The worry comes in if the chat rooms are aimed at minors and undesireable adults of a certain nature attempt to enter. Is the law different for one to one messenger applications?
    Swearing etc we can block most of so I am not too worried about that.

    Is there a specific law which I can read or at least some standards and if so do these only apply to the UK or a specific country or are there general rules I can abide by?

    Many thanks for any assistance.

    Rowan
    Commercial Director
    Naked Penguin Boy
    www.nakedpenguinboy.com

  5. Lawrence L

    Freelance Web Consultant at architxt.net

    28 March 2006 16:26pm

    Lawrence L

    On 17:50:42 24 March 2006 RowanHeasley wrote:

    Hi All,

    I wonder if someone can help, I am trying to find out what the law is with regards to public chat rooms and one to one instant messenger type applications. I suppose one could include forums in this topic too.

    The worry comes in if the chat rooms are aimed at minors and undesireable adults of a certain nature attempt to enter. Is the law different for one to one messenger applications?
    Swearing etc we can block most of so I am not too worried about that.

    Is there a specific law which I can read or at least some standards and if so do these only apply to the UK or a specific country or are there general rules I can abide by?

    Many thanks for any assistance.

    Rowan
    Commercial Director
    Naked Penguin Boy
    www.nakedpenguinboy.com

    Hi Rowan,

    This is a question you should ask 'e-minters':

    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/e-mint/

    (aka Association of Online Community Professionals )

    You might also want to talk to and use the services of companies such as Chat Moderators (http://www.chatmoderators.com/) and Tempero (http://www.tempero.co.uk).

    You will have to tread carefully when you're dealing with minors, but I'm sure you know that. Moderation is part of the answer (most important part) but can be expensive. Community might prove to be a very powerful marketing tool for what you do, but it will be expensive to play it safe. I used to manage a Warner Bros. community of fan sites that included a very popular forum dedicated to characters of a major game.  Until the brand owner discovered porn versions of the characters (before we did) and pulled the whole community from the site. We did moderate extensively but couldn't offer 24/7 cover, which would have been too expensive.

    Good luck!
     

  6. Rowan Heasley

    Founding Partner at Naked Penguin Boy Ltd

    28 March 2006 16:55pm

    Rowan Heasley

    Hi Rob,

    Many thanks for your help and advice, if I have the opportunity to recommend you and your services I will.

    All the best
    Rowan
    www.nakedpenguinboy.com

  7. tango jango

    ass. manager at assRus inc.

    10 March 2008 22:08pm

    tango jango

    I'm not sure how it works in the UK, but in the US you can go to the law library at your local courthouse or bar association and search the resourch books or their computors. It will give you information on which book will have related laws. It will take some reading, but it's quite easy.

    most sites offer restrictions for the chatroom when you sign up, but you have to look pretty good.

    Are you in the UK? that is sooooo cool!

    On 16:26:42 28 March 2006 Loz wrote:

    On 17:50:42 24 March 2006 RowanHeasley wrote:

    Hi All,

    I wonder if someone can help, I am trying to find out what the law is with regards to public chat rooms and one to one instant messenger type applications. I suppose one could include forums in this topic too.

    The worry comes in if the chat rooms are aimed at minors and undesireable adults of a certain nature attempt to enter. Is the law different for one to one messenger applications?
    Swearing etc we can block most of so I am not too worried about that.

    Is there a specific law which I can read or at least some standards and if so do these only apply to the UK or a specific country or are there general rules I can abide by?

    Many thanks for any assistance.

    Rowan
    Commercial Director
    Naked Penguin Boy
    www.nakedpenguinboy.com

    Hi Rowan,

    This is a question you should ask 'e-minters':

    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/e-mint/

    (aka Association of Online Community Professionals )

    You might also want to talk to and use the services of companies such as Chat Moderators (http://www.chatmoderators.com/) and Tempero (http://www.tempero.co.uk).

    You will have to tread carefully when you're dealing with minors, but I'm sure you know that. Moderation is part of the answer (most important part) but can be expensive. Community might prove to be a very powerful marketing tool for what you do, but it will be expensive to play it safe. I used to manage a Warner Bros. community of fan sites that included a very popular forum dedicated to characters of a major game.  Until the brand owner discovered porn versions of the characters (before we did) and pulled the whole community from the site. We did moderate extensively but couldn't offer 24/7 cover, which would have been too expensive.

    Good luck!
     

  8. Caroline Plumb

    CEO at FreshNetworks

    01 April 2008 15:39pm

    Caroline Plumb

    Hi Rowan,

    I have a great summary of the UK law on the extent to which a host is liable for something e.g. defamatory on a forum/ chat room and the best way to manage this potential liability. It's a document written by Glyn Morgan at Taylor Wessing who is an expert on digital media law - I'll happily send it to you if you drop me an email () - it's a bit long to post!

    Caroline

    On 22:08:06 10 March 2008 well-la-di-da wrote:

    I'm not sure how it works in the UK, but in the US you can go to the law library at your local courthouse or bar association and search the resourch books or their computors. It will give you information on which book will have related laws. It will take some reading, but it's quite easy.

    most sites offer restrictions for the chatroom when you sign up, but you have to look pretty good.

    Are you in the UK? that is sooooo cool!

    On 16:26:42 28 March 2006 Loz wrote:

    On 17:50:42 24 March 2006 RowanHeasley wrote:

    Hi All,

    I wonder if someone can help, I am trying to find out what the law is with regards to public chat rooms and one to one instant messenger type applications. I suppose one could include forums in this topic too.

    The worry comes in if the chat rooms are aimed at minors and undesireable adults of a certain nature attempt to enter. Is the law different for one to one messenger applications?
    Swearing etc we can block most of so I am not too worried about that.

    Is there a specific law which I can read or at least some standards and if so do these only apply to the UK or a specific country or are there general rules I can abide by?

    Many thanks for any assistance.

    Rowan
    Commercial Director
    Naked Penguin Boy
    www.nakedpenguinboy.com

    Hi Rowan,

    This is a question you should ask 'e-minters':

    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/e-mint/

    (aka Association of Online Community Professionals )

    You might also want to talk to and use the services of companies such as Chat Moderators (http://www.chatmoderators.com/) and Tempero (http://www.tempero.co.uk).

    You will have to tread carefully when you're dealing with minors, but I'm sure you know that. Moderation is part of the answer (most important part) but can be expensive. Community might prove to be a very powerful marketing tool for what you do, but it will be expensive to play it safe. I used to manage a Warner Bros. community of fan sites that included a very popular forum dedicated to characters of a major game.  Until the brand owner discovered porn versions of the characters (before we did) and pulled the whole community from the site. We did moderate extensively but couldn't offer 24/7 cover, which would have been too expensive.

    Good luck!
     

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