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Aspiration Jewellery
21 September 2008 19:49pm
Having had a look at various options for redevelopment of an ecommerce website, I have pretty much decided upon Actinic or Erol.
I'm leaning towards the latter, as it should be easier to retain a (bespoke) look and feel, and since Erol sites appear to be generally better looking. I'm aware though that Actinic has some great features and so, thought I'd ask you all if it's six and half a dozen, or if there are any major differences between the two that I may have missed?
Thanks
FR
Technical Project Manager (MBA, MBCS, CITP, CEng) at Naxtech.com
22 September 2008 00:57am
I was personally never in favour of either Actinic or Erol, but that may be because I was always "closer" to the possibility of custom development.
I like being able to customise things and to have a one-off cost rather than ongoing fees, etc so my suggestion would be to not exclude the custom development route.
Why not get some ideas perhaps from things like:
- http://www.naxtech.com/products.asp#eshop
- http://www.euric.gr
...just food for thought rather than anything else.
I hope the above help.
regards,
Denis
www.naxtech.com
Director at Grow Digital Marketing
26 September 2008 12:28pm
On 19:49:16 21 September 2008 FrancesRooney wrote:
Hi FR
As an agency that is constantly looking at ecommerce applications all of the time we have found two major issues with both of these products:
1) The rely on access as the database for the system (this causes the sites to be slow and we have clients who have used this in the past and have found issues with the system crashing when any load is placed on the system)
2) You are reliant on the actual PC you have the system installed on from a site management and order management perspectve. This means that your single point of failure is the PC which is not ideal.
As an alternative have a look at digishop. Example sites in the UK include:
www.anoushkag.com/store
www.bracketsrus.co.uk
www.indiain-infusion.co.uk
Garry
Owner at North South Media
26 September 2008 20:07pm
I run digishop for a few clients and have had to do a major hack to make it seo friendly regarding the url's. If your looking for an alternative I'd suggest magento
You need to have php5 and .htaccess but it is some bundle for an open source solution.
Aspiration Jewellery
27 September 2008 13:18pm
Thanks, but I wasn't really looking for open source. Also I'm not overly technical and find even Actinic and Erol a bit hard to use.
Ideally I'd like to have went with a hosted solution but all the decent ones are just that wee bit too expensive. I realise I'll have to spend a few thousand but not £10k or anything like that; and for the money I spend I want quite a lot of functionality.
I also like the fact that you're not 100% reliant on anyone else if you have a software solution.
Which is how I ended up with Actinic or Erol.
FR
Managing Director at Inigo Media Ltd
28 September 2008 22:21pm
Hi Frances,
I'd second the idea of looking into Magento in more detail. It has a huge feature set and if you purchase a support package with the company that makes it, Varien, there's no reason to feel like you're completely reliant on them.
There's little that's particularly technical if all you need to do is add products, change prices and run orders. We offer full installations of Magento from £3950+vat including design and payment service provider integration.
You can see the Magento features at http://www.magentoecommerce.com/features/
There are also online demos of both the front end and the back end.
Our aim is to make Magento more flexible and not just an installation and addition of products - which means a bit more customisation, but we can then bend and mould it to do what you need it to do.
Ultimately Actnic and Erol force you into their framework, but an open source solution like Magento allows you to add on to the system when the need arises because it's all based on PHP, a programming language known to thousands of web developers.
If you're interested, do get in touch by emailing dan@inigo.net
Kind regards
Dan
Aspiration Jewellery
28 September 2008 23:26pm
I realise that Magento is, as far as open source goes, pretty powerful - I think both it and Volusion look very good.
However it seems to have an American feel; my customers are all UK based and I want to do well on Google UK rather than USA. Moreover it's important that customers don't look at Americanised terms and assume I'm not local.
FR
On 22:21:25 28 September 2008 inigomedia wrote:
Director at Deeson Group Ltd
29 September 2008 09:26am
Hi Frances
Magento is designed to be localised and supports translation packs, bespoke tax and payment modules from all over the world.
We have built UK production sites such as http://www.silkweddingdesigns.com/ that are successfully running in the UK. The theme layer, your server IP and in and out bound links are likely to be of more influence on your UK specific Google ranking. I'm not an SEO expert though so perhaps someone else could be more specific?
We used Actinic when we first started doing ecommerce about 8 years ago and didn't find it to be particularly flexible, it had a strange offline management client and online store model that seems a bit archaic now, I don't know if that's still the case.
Disclaimer: we are Magento partners.
Thanks
Tim
www.deeson.co.uk/emedia/
Managing Director at Inigo Media Ltd
29 September 2008 10:18am
I'd endorse what Tim says about translations packs, which in non-geek speak just means that you can make the site run in UK English rather than US English.
You may need to put up with some of the back end in California tech terminology, but the customer facing aspects can all be customised to say what you want your customers to see.
Should also add that Inigo are Magento Partners too.
Dan
G-Forces Web Mgmt Ltd
24 November 2008 11:54am
Personally, I don't think much of either of these ecommerce software solutions. Actinic's offering is very much out-of-date because they have been heavily focusing on their EPOS solution over last couple of years. Erol is simply sub standard. Their sites look poor and run slowly.
The best in the market by a country mile is www.netdirectoretradepro.co.uk. It uses the SaaS model and is coming down in price. The software has been developed, from the very beginning, applying tried-and-tested ecommerce principles which ultimately increase conversion from foot traffic into actual sales - and it works! To be honest, have a look and see what a polished product it is.
You should take a look at it by registering for a free trial:
http://www.netdirectoretradepro.co.uk/create-shop/view/ecommerce-free-trial