Director at Codehouse
17 August 2009 11:48am
There are indeed many CMS to chose from - from in-house, to commercial and open source. In-house (home built), as you state, have the worry about agency lock-in, future feature development speed, inability to stay up to date with the technology stack. Systems out in the wild would typically have a bigger install base, more developers available who are knowledgeable, and flexible support options. When choosing an implementation partner, there exist smaller agencies out there who have opted for an in the wild system rather than build their own and they may offer greater scalability and more stable long term support than a freelancer.
For example, we typcially use Sitecore or Umbraco (not yet mentioned).
Best of luck, and get in touch if you want to chat.
17 August 2009 12:34pm
Thank you all for your responses - our site has been designed as a brochureware site but this is hampering its potential for lead generation - I'm hoping the right CMS will help me make the site stickier, improve call-to-action and facilitate more frequent content updates.
The CMS solution we choose needs to:
and GOOGLE friendly
Offer sitemap facility
Send site feedback
Tiered access rights
including admin, content, review - content locking (check-out) to ensure
editors can work collaboratively
updates i.e. when the news page is updated so is the news item on the
A CMS that is scalable so that we can add e-commerce, customer/partner log-in areas in
the future, potentially adding in an art working proof area and the ability for ‘people who
bought this, also bought’ functionality in the future
Link management (i.e.
cannot delete items and cause broken links in a site)
Web administrator user
Make changes to main
menus – add items at top level and change the order
Make changes in preview
mode with a review mode where other people can log-in to approve changes before
they are made live
Add links, copy,
imagery, dynamic content and logos to the site with admin rights in all
Edit all copy, imagery,
dynamic content and logos
Add, remove, archive
pages Create custom forms
data/download data etc
I am currently evaluating Joomla - my feeling is it is very well supported and with the right install and ongoing support could be good. The interface seems very easy to use - any thoughts on that? Like mentioned previously we have zero in-house technical resource here. BR.
Online Channel Manager at Sangamo Ltd
17 August 2009 16:02pm
Joomla - will cater for most of the above but you really need to sit down and work out the whole information architecture thing.
I would start with a migration plan - what goes what stays. Then outline all the functionality you require on a must have would be nice to have. For instance does 'everything' have to reside on the one site or could you just link to it?
17 August 2009 18:09pm
agree with David on the migration plan and scoping.
A serious WCMS will do the above, so it might not narrow your search down much. Talk over some scenarios for the site stakeholders (including visitors, content authors and site admins) and build user stories to identify features for the site.
Matt - Codehouse - 0845 009 4509
CTO at Revalsys
18 August 2009 09:09am
As I have stated earlier we have developed our own homegrown Content Management System which will cater to all your requirements stated above.
Recently we have done a similar website which matches your requirements.
Once you see the demo of our Content Management System, you can give us your valuable feedback on implementing RevalCMS vs Joomla.
Our CMS is very intutive and does not require any technically skilled people in your orgranization as we would also maintain your website for any future requirements. There are 30 business ready application built for our CMS.
We have a very easy workflow mechanism built into our CMS which is being adapted by a major bank in India (Indian Overseas Bank).
We not only provide a product, but also gaurantee our work for the Successful implementation of your website.
I had said enough, but at the end of the day seeing is believing. If you give us time, we would like to demonstrate our Content Management System REVALCMS to you. We can do this over webex.
Look at our new website http://www.revalsys.com completed integrated with our CMS. No ther CMS can be used to integrate our website so effeciently.
Looking forward to hearing from you soon.
Head Product Development at The Caravan Club
18 August 2009 23:02pm
We are currently migrating from Microsoft CMS to an open source CMS called Umbraco which meets many of the needs you describe which are also my current frustrations - it is a very flexible future proofed CMS and I am looking forward to getting my hands on it. Does need some customisation but does alot out of the box - so far we have had good support from other umbraco developers.
I do have the benefit of an inhouse team to implement this for me and am sure you will need some development no matter what you choose but this certainly seems to be the way forward - open source!
19 August 2009 10:32am
Thank you Ratan and Natasha - Ratan I will have a look at your system but I am quite far down the line with the evals I am already doing now and in a small business with the rest of the marketing mix to worry about unfortunately time to evaluate is scarce; however, thank you very much for your responses.
Natasha thanks for your response - good luck with Umbraco!
One thing that has cropped up is some Opensource systems still require a paid for license and others do not - this is alittle confusing and making the comparing of job estimates difficult - also I thought the whole idea with Opensource was that because the code is open and free to be developed/improved no paid license is required?? Does Joomla require a paid license?
19 August 2009 15:55pm
You need not do any evaluation of the Content Management System. Our Solution is the best in the industry, very intutive and search engine friendly.
Please let me know a date and time for me to do a demonstration online.
I request you to spare atleast 20 minutes to show you the demonstration of our REVALCMS.
You can contact me on Ratank@revalsys.com
Website/Graphic Designer at Siteradical
25 August 2009 17:31pm
I agree that Joomla is a great free resource for creating CMS driven sites...you could also use Wordpress as a CMS (also free, of course) and take advantage of some of the out-of-the-box SEO benefits in addition to a myriad of plugins to augment the functionality of your site.
A good program that is inexpensive to help you design or re-design a site, and will save it as a theme to be used in Wordpress, Joomla, Drupal, DotNet Nuke and others is Artisteer.
I have designed a few sites using this software and Wordpress that have worked out great. Worpress itself is easily installed through most hosting services and their control panels (usually through Simple Scripts or Fantastico).
The Wordpress backend is pretty easy to learn and use as well. :)
25 August 2009 17:39pm
I just looked at your list of requirements after the fact - The Wordpress option will take care of almost all of your requirements, mostly through the use of plug-ins and widgets. This includes adding on Ecommerce eventually, although I am not sure if the ecommerce solutions are better than the Joomla options.
Much of the functionality you desire is built into Wordpress. Joomla should handle most of this as well with the same use of plugins and such.
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