1. Marco Barra

    eMarketing Consultant at eMarketingHut.com

    23 September 2008 16:21pm

    Marco Barra

    Because of technical difficulties in phasing the migration of our existing site to a new version, it has been suggested by our technical team that we should consider a new domain.

    Being aware that domain age plays an important role in SEO, I'm concerned of the potential impact this might have on our existing natural traffic.

    The proposed approach is as follows:
    http://www.oursite.com
    http://new.oursite.com

    As different sections get redeveloped, they will gradually be migrated from the current domain over to the new one, and once completed all new sections will be migrated back to the original domain.

    I'd appreciate your thoughts on this, and any suggestions on how we should be handling this instead if this is not the best approach from an SEO point of view.

    Regards,

    Marco

  2. John Swinburn Silver

    Senior marketing officer - online at MyScience.co Ltd

    23 September 2008 20:42pm

    John Swinburn

    Hi Marco,

    as a client I was concerned about doing this for a redesign of our website about 18months ago.  However the transfer went very smoothly, the main thing the agency did was set up a pile of 301 redirects from the odl site so that all inbound links on the old site were redirected to the newsite and therefore all the traffic these were bringing in as well as the page rank were maintained.  the stats showed a 30% drop or so in the first month but rapidly recovered after that.  However i am sure there will be others who can give you a much better technical response than this.

    good luck

    John

  3. Marco Barra

    eMarketing Consultant at eMarketingHut.com

    24 September 2008 00:17am

    Marco Barra

    Thanks for the reply john, that 30% drop is what i need to prevent if at all possible as this would also equal a huge advertising revenue drop.

    we've used 301 redirects in the past and they seem to do the trick, our issue is due to the phasing nature of the project, which means we'd gradually end up redirecting current urls (a few at a time) to the new domain and then back again to the current domain.

    far too many opportunities for risk to creep in and far too many unknowns for my liking. google might even assume we're being overly clever and ban the site altogether!

  4. Fredz Aguilar

    SEO - SEM

    24 September 2008 05:13am

    Fredz Aguilar

    http://new.oursite.com is just a sub domain. If you prefer opening a new domain then perhaps you may consider using 301 redirection from the old domain to the new one.

    On 16:21:11 23 September 2008 MarcoBarra wrote:
    >Because of technical difficulties in phasing the migration
    >of our existing site to a new version, it has been
    >suggested by our technical team that we should consider a
    >new domain.
    >
    >Being aware that domain age plays an important role in
    >SEO, I'm concerned of the potential impact this might have
    >on our existing natural traffic.
    >
    >The proposed approach is as follows:
    >
    >http://www.oursite.com
    >
    >http://new.oursite.com
    >
    >As different sections get redeveloped, they will gradually
    >be migrated from the current domain over to the new one,
    >and once completed all new sections will be migrated back
    >to the original domain.
    >
    >I'd appreciate your thoughts on this, and any suggestions
    >on how we should be handling this instead if this is not
    >the best approach from an SEO point of view.
    >
    >Regards,
    >
    >Marco

  5. dan barker

    E-Business Consultant at Dan Barker

    24 September 2008 09:16am

    dan barker

    hi, Marco, how are you doing?

    No answers but a few questions:

    1. why do you need the new subdomain to do this? wouldn't a subdirectory work equally well?
    2. could you just roll the updates over the top of the existing without the middle step?
    3. will everyone see both subdomains, or is 'new' something that will only be shown to users after they login?
    4. are you planning to have both new. & old. rank for your terms at the same time?

    sorry to have so many questions, but it feels like there could be a simpler way of achieving what you're trying to do.

    daniel

  6. Marco Barra

    eMarketing Consultant at eMarketingHut.com

    25 September 2008 10:33am

    Marco Barra

    Hi Daniel,
     

    Thanks for your input, I think we have found a reasonable alternative.

    We will now run the two versions in parallel (current and new), but on separate domains. The new version will be hidden from bots to prevent the new domain being indexed.

    The user will then be able to switch between the two versions at will but from an SE's point of view only the current one is indexable.

    Once the new site is fully available, and all the necessary tweaks have been carried out then we will switch them around and handle all the necessary 301 redirects in one go.

    I'm comfortable that this will minimise any impact the changes may have.

    What do you think?

    Regards,

    Marco

    On 09:16:22 24 September 2008 danielb wrote:

    hi, Marco, how are you doing?

    No answers but a few questions:

    1. why do you need the new subdomain to do this? wouldn't a subdirectory work equally well?
    2. could you just roll the updates over the top of the existing without the middle step?
    3. will everyone see both subdomains, or is 'new' something that will only be shown to users after they login?
    4. are you planning to have both new. & old. rank for your terms at the same time?

    sorry to have so many questions, but it feels like there could be a simpler way of achieving what you're trying to do.

    daniel

  7. dan barker

    E-Business Consultant at Dan Barker

    25 September 2008 11:22am

    dan barker

    hi, Marco,

    have done something very similar in the past & it's worked well.

    2 little suggestions:

    1. It's worth 301ing your temporary domain back to your main domain after you've finished with it (even though it's hidden from robots). No doubt pages will pick up a few links & bookmarks. After you've done that, removing the robots.txt file should be fine.
    2. You say users can switch easily between one site & the other. Might be worth setting all of the links from the 'real' domain across to the 'temporary' as nofollows. Not sure it would make any difference, but it may help save some of your link equity from flowing into a black hole.

    Is any of this any use?

    daniel

  8. Marco Barra

    eMarketing Consultant at eMarketingHut.com

    25 September 2008 11:47am

    Marco Barra

    Brilliant, two top tips there... I have made note of these within the project documentation.

    Thanks again for your help,

    Marco

  9. Rachel Buckle

    Consultant at Online Guru Limited

    01 October 2008 16:28pm

    Rachel Buckle

    I was wondering if the above suggestions would apply if the site's were in a different look & feel when we wouldn't want people to switch between the domains?

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