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  1. Alex Chudnovsky

    Fndr at Majestic12.co.uk

    01 April 2003 14:23pm

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    >If you were to select 5 top line KEY performance
    >indicators (industry benchmarks) which would they be?

    All of them and some more I omitted:-)

    But if you insist then my minimal list is as follows:

    0. Number of Orders (transactions)
    1. Sales or GP per email
    2. CTR total and unique
    3. Conversion as a % of unique clicks
    4. Drop off ratio
    5. Relevance ratio*

    Comparison can only be made across same or proven to be similar enough sectors.

    Relevance ratio: I omitted this indicator, my bad. This indicator shows % of those sales that were directly promoted from email vs total sales. It shows how relevant content was in the email itself as opposed to having situation where offers in email are bad, but homepage happen to have something nice, and overall email sales are good, which gives fake feeling that email is successful whereas its not.

  2. Phil Argent Bronze

    Business Process and Performance Analyst

    01 April 2003 15:17pm

    Phil Argent

    I see - my last point on this ;-)

    So the aim of each business is to manage these numbers, are we clear how this should be conducted? Which department has critical dependence – (in you case I would opt for full support of the product buying team)// cutomer services? Does this industry have clear best practices or business sector philosophy? Perhaps? Yes?

    What do people do to move these numbers and how many people are required? (Considering OPEX) - productivity measures?

    Some good points listed in the forum. Good transparent business planning is required.

    Thanks
    Phil

    On 14:23:29 1 April 2003 Alex Chudnovsky wrote:
    >>If you were to select 5 top line KEY performance
    >>indicators (industry benchmarks) which would they be?
    >
    >All of them and some more I omitted:-)
    >
    >But if you insist then my minimal list is as follows:
    >
    >0. Number of Orders (transactions)
    >1. Sales or GP per email
    >2. CTR total and unique
    >3. Conversion as a % of unique clicks
    >4. Drop off ratio
    >5. Relevance ratio*
    >
    >Comparison can only be made across same or proven to be
    >similar enough sectors.
    >
    >Relevance ratio: I omitted this indicator, my bad. This
    >indicator shows % of those sales that were directly
    >promoted from email vs total sales. It shows how relevant
    >content was in the email itself as opposed to having
    >situation where offers in email are bad, but homepage
    >happen to have something nice, and overall email sales are
    >good, which gives fake feeling that email is successful
    >whereas its not.

  3. Phil Argent Bronze

    Business Process and Performance Analyst

    01 April 2003 15:22pm

    Phil Argent

    Philosophy and productivity - sorry typos..

    On 15:17:18 1 April 2003 silversurfer wrote:
    >I see - my last point on this ;-)
    >
    >So the aim of each business is to manage these numbers,
    >are we clear how this should be conducted? Which
    >department has critical dependence – (in you case I
    >would opt for full support of the product buying team)//
    >cutomer services? Does this industry have clear best
    >practices or business sector philosophy? Perhaps? Yes?
    >
    >What do people do to move these numbers and how many
    >people are required? (Considering OPEX) - productivity
    >measures?
    >
    >Some good points listed in the forum. Good transparent
    >business planning is required.
    >
    >Thanks
    >Phil
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >On 14:23:29 1 April 2003 Alex Chudnovsky wrote:
    >>>If you were to select 5 top line KEY performance
    >>>indicators (industry benchmarks) which would they
    >be?
    >>
    >>All of them and some more I omitted:-)
    >>
    >>But if you insist then my minimal list is as follows:
    >>
    >>0. Number of Orders (transactions)
    >>1. Sales or GP per email
    >>2. CTR total and unique
    >>3. Conversion as a % of unique clicks
    >>4. Drop off ratio
    >>5. Relevance ratio*
    >>
    >>Comparison can only be made across same or proven to
    >be
    >>similar enough sectors.
    >>
    >>Relevance ratio: I omitted this indicator, my bad.
    >This
    >>indicator shows % of those sales that were directly
    >>promoted from email vs total sales. It shows how
    >relevant
    >>content was in the email itself as opposed to having
    >>situation where offers in email are bad, but homepage
    >>happen to have something nice, and overall email sales
    >are
    >>good, which gives fake feeling that email is
    >successful
    >>whereas its not.

  4. Martin Wright

    Senior Consultant at Martin Wright Associates

    01 April 2003 18:42pm

    Martin Wright

    Very interesting stuff, in particular the uplift you got with your 'unique' targeting.

    I have been trying to quantify the uplift companies have got by using viewing history as a targeting criteria (e.g. response to an email offering product 'X' from people who looked at that product yesterday but didn't buy it Vs the response you get by emailing the same message to all registered users)

    Do you have any results of that type you could share with me?

    On 10:39:41 27 March 2003 Alex Chudnovsky wrote:
    >The following stats are based on about 1,200 email
    >campaigns that I was involved with in the last 3 years in
    >Jungle.com:
    >
    >CTR Conversion SalesPerEmail, £
    >
    >Non-targeted: 2-4% 2-4% 0.03-0.10
    >Sales history targeting: 3-8% 4-7% 0.05 - 1.00
    >Experimental targeting: 20-40% 10-40% 3.00-10.00
    >
    >It should be said that in my experience response,
    >conversion and sales per email
    >
    >Definitions we used:
    >
    >CTR: Total number of clicks from email campaign (not
    >unique)
    >
    >Conversion: number of PLACED order divided by CTR
    >
    >SalesPerEmail: Total PLACED sales dividing by number of
    >recipients on the list.
    >
    >Experimental targeting: a highly effective targeting
    >technique that I developed (invented even?) that is a bit
    >too early to tell the whole world about.

  5. Alex Chudnovsky

    Fndr at Majestic12.co.uk

    01 April 2003 22:49pm

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    >So the aim of each business is to manage these numbers,
    >are we clear how this should be conducted?

    Unlike math this industry is too young to have something definate and certain. I could have written PhD on that subject, and my experience would not be complete, there will be differences that I missed due to the fact that I had to ignore insignificant for us trends, which may well be significant for others.

    > Which department has critical dependence – (in you case I
    >would opt for full support of the product buying team)//

    Well, I am not an authority on this subject, so all my comments are purely based on my experience in Jungle.com (2000-2003). More details about stuff that I did are here: http://www.chudnovsky.org/about/cv.doc (warning its my CV in word file) I am currently employed full time by Phones4U (Ecommerce) and I do not plan to change job in near future, so please do not consider this link an app for work (part time consultancy is a different matter so long as it does not conflict with my main job).

    So, back to question: I consider that the most important reason for our success was the fact that we had very good business understanding linked to highly capable IT department. We had to fight a lot with commercial dept with varied success for 2 years, and with more success in the last year of Jungle's life. You can't really exclude anyone from the list, because without product in stock we can't really promote it. From our side we tried to do our best to assist relevant departments in helping us. Oveall I think the less dependencies are the better, not possible or hard to do in big corporate environments.

    >cutomer services? Does this industry have clear best
    >practices or business sector philosophy? Perhaps? Yes?

    I can't really speak for the whole industry. My business philosophy is to be customer focused maximizing sales potential, yeah, I know its obvious stuff but I was suprised to see a lot of non-customer focussed stuff, like manufacturers offering incentives to promote their products etc.

    >What do people do to move these numbers and how many
    >people are required? (Considering OPEX) - productivity
    >measures?

    Depends on objectives, my approach is that its better to have small good multi-skilled team rather than have links to many departments. Its a long story as well, don't know how interested people are.

  6. Alex Chudnovsky

    Fndr at Majestic12.co.uk

    01 April 2003 23:01pm

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    > Very interesting stuff, in particular the uplift you got with
    >your 'unique' targeting

    ;-) It was unique to the best of my knowledge, some things get developed at the same time and people don't know about it for a long period of time. I am not particularly bothered by who did it first, its fine by me to know what needs to be done to maximize sales. Naturally I am always on a lookout for new stuff.

    >I have been trying to quantify the uplift companies have
    >got by using viewing history as a targeting criteria (e.g.
    >response to an email offering product 'X' from people who
    >looked at that product yesterday but didn't buy it Vs the
    >response you get by emailing the same message to all
    >registered users)

    In a nutshell thats the thing. Our first targeted email based on browsing history went out in June 2001. Thats almost 2 years ago, back then pretty much no UK B2C company did that. Amazon started using browsing history on the website only recently, and to the best of my knowledge they have not started using it in emails even now, I cant be certain about it however, since my main job was to maximize sales not analyse what competitor with 8 digit R&D budget can do :-(

    What was unique you may ask? Well, once you establish that targeting using browsing history gives great results, you will want to do it all the time. And thats when you realise that you only track a fraction of customer on your site. Thing is, to target using browsing history you need to know who is browsing website at all time! Sure there are thigns such as auto-login, but even with this feature numebr of people who you are effectively tracking can be less than 5%! We had about 10-12% or so, but with some mods we increased it to over 50%. There were also some bits and pieces about being smart about usage of actual data, but these are details.

    >Do you have any results of that type you could share with
    >me?

    Ask specific questions, I will try my best to give good answer.

  7. Phil Argent Bronze

    Business Process and Performance Analyst

    02 April 2003 11:10am

    Phil Argent

    That’s all very interesting stuff.

    I think you hit on a very good point here - this business sector is NOT a science and it need not be - but many have tried to make it so. Whilst I consider too a PHD or MBA to nail down these variables - I consider a great number of the answers would be obvious and well tried and tested.

    I am sure engaging with the customer may be a “me too” statement but MANY e commerce companies DO NOT DO THIS and do not know how too!

    I gained my insight working alongside a Mc Kinsey & Co business analyst whilst at a global dot com player. What I learnt and consider a great insight; and critical to e business success is understanding how your customers learn and how your action affect them.

    What are you trying to do and how fast will your customers take to understand the critical processes of buying, shopping, browsing and communicating with each other’s – beware that cycle can be 1 day but can also be 3 months or one year.

    Online I believe successful understanding of phase one processes (browsing) is 3-7 days – a very small window of opportunity – if they don’t understand that phase you really will have your work cut out to get a sale.

    5 phases

    1 – 3 to 7 days – browsing and understanding
    2 – 7 to 21 days – registration and close in for purchase
    3 – 1 to 6 weeks – 1st purchase and follow up experience
    4 – Within 3 months – 2nd purchase and other activity (additional browsing or community activities
    5 – Greater that 3 months – lapsed customer

    Obviously this can vary between sectors but I think is a good rule of thumb. So building a good CRM and company philosophy around that can be easier.

    “ Make the site fast and robust, make browsing simple and easy, make phase 1-2 process for new customer very very straight forward, phase 3 critical for phase 4 (requires good levels of support), phase 4 will happen but don’t make it complex – very governed but branding and customer experience, Phase 5 email campaign or promotional activity target – but can be high cost – good focus group target”

    I think we can all looks and analysis numbers but it’s critical that these are qualitatively verified against customer expectation and experience.

    On 22:49:38 1 April 2003 Alex Chudnovsky wrote:
    >>So the aim of each business is to manage these
    >numbers,
    >>are we clear how this should be conducted?
    >
    >Unlike math this industry is too young to have something
    >definate and certain. I could have written PhD on that
    >subject, and my experience would not be complete, there
    >will be differences that I missed due to the fact that I
    >had to ignore insignificant for us trends, which may well
    >be significant for others.
    >
    >> Which department has critical dependence – (in
    >you case I
    >>would opt for full support of the product buying
    >team)//
    >
    >Well, I am not an authority on this subject, so all my
    >comments are purely based on my experience in Jungle.com
    >(2000-2003). More details about stuff that I did are here:
    >http://www.chudnovsky.org/about/cv.doc (warning its my CV
    >in word file) I am currently employed full time by
    >Phones4U (Ecommerce) and I do not plan to change job in
    >near future, so please do not consider this link an app
    >for work (part time consultancy is a different matter so
    >long as it does not conflict with my main job).
    >
    >So, back to question: I consider that the most important
    >reason for our success was the fact that we had very good
    >business understanding linked to highly capable IT
    >department. We had to fight a lot with commercial dept
    >with varied success for 2 years, and with more success in
    >the last year of Jungle's life. You can't really exclude
    >anyone from the list, because without product in stock we
    >can't really promote it. From our side we tried to do our
    >best to assist relevant departments in helping us. Oveall
    >I think the less dependencies are the better, not possible
    >or hard to do in big corporate environments.
    >
    >>cutomer services? Does this industry have clear best
    >>practices or business sector philosophy? Perhaps? Yes?
    >
    >I can't really speak for the whole industry. My business
    >philosophy is to be customer focused maximizing sales
    >potential, yeah, I know its obvious stuff but I was
    >suprised to see a lot of non-customer focussed stuff, like
    >manufacturers offering incentives to promote their
    >products etc.
    >
    >>What do people do to move these numbers and how many
    >>people are required? (Considering OPEX) - productivity
    >>measures?
    >
    >Depends on objectives, my approach is that its better to
    >have small good multi-skilled team rather than have links
    >to many departments. Its a long story as well, don't know
    >how interested people are.

  8. Alex Chudnovsky

    Fndr at Majestic12.co.uk

    03 April 2003 09:23am

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    >I think you hit on a very good point here - this business
    >sector is NOT a science and it need not be - but many have
    >tried to make it so.

    I don't think its wrong to think business is science, its just in practice understanding is not complete and chance of failure is high due to not being able to process all variables or even identify them.

    >I am sure engaging with the customer may be a “me
    >too” statement but MANY e commerce companies DO NOT
    >DO THIS and do not know how too!

    Yep, a lot of people say it and then move on instead of actually meaning it at all levels.

    >Online I believe successful understanding of phase one
    >processes (browsing) is 3-7 days – a very small
    >window of opportunity – if they don’t
    >understand that phase you really will have your work cut
    >out to get a sale.

    Generally agree, there are obviously some exceptions where people would still go to a poorly designed site, but this will be at expense of margins. Throw in marketing costs and dropped off from front page customer will move break even point further.

    >1 – 3 to 7 days – browsing and understanding
    >2 – 7 to 21 days – registration and close in
    >for purchase
    >3 – 1 to 6 weeks – 1st purchase and follow up
    >experience
    >4 – Within 3 months – 2nd purchase and other
    >activity (additional browsing or community activities
    >5 – Greater that 3 months – lapsed customer

    Again agree in principle, with exception to customer contact - I firmly belive that customer contact should me made pretty much straight after first sale. Now, its a bit silly to push merhandise so, its better to focus on stuff like reviews, feedback etc, get people involved and make them want to open _and_ read your emails next time they get it.

    > Phase 5 email campaign or promotional activity target – but
    > can be high cost – good focus group target”

    Costs of non-targeting are indeed very high, but these are not costs of actually authoring and deploying emails, but the costs of lost customers due to non-relevant emails -- if people won't find your emails relevant then they will just ignore them, and possible even not want to buy from you, so you will have loss of future revenues from these customers, which would result in other customers having to buy more to offset your acquisition costs.

  9. Ashley Friedlein Staff

    CEO at Econsultancy

    24 April 2003 14:37pm

    Ashley Friedlein

    Just came across a piece by Howard Seibel, Managing Director of Wharton Strategic Services which gives sample customer acquisition costs from various sources across the following sectors:

    - Telecoms
    - Retail
    - Magazines
    - Satellite/Cable
    - Financial
    - Travel

    These metrics are not purely for online acquisition (though some of the sample companies are online pure-plays) and they are US-focused but I think they are helpful as guide benchmarks. Particularly if you can show that your interactive channels are achieving much lower average customer acquisition costs than these norms.

    Data available at: http://www.emetrics.org/articles/acquisition.shtml

  10. Terry Golesworthy Bronze

    President at The Customer Respect Group

    17 April 2009 00:41am

    Terry Golesworthy

    I was wondering if anyone has any knowledge of KPI research in the online self service space such as online help, etc. Here the KPIs are not as obvious but just as vital to understand as sefl serve systems are becoming more critical. It is not just about content, it is about whether customers can find what they need and solve their problems.

     

     

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