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  1. John Swinburn Silver

    Senior marketing officer - online at MyScience.co Ltd

    22 September 2008 11:28am

    John Swinburn

    Hi there,

    We're currently redeveloping our website and looking to intergrate our ticketing and CRM database into it.Our current database supplier is telling me that the system will be fine transferring CSV files from the website into the database.  A web agency is telling me that XML would be better, which I am not sure our supplier can currently handle.

    What are the issues (if any) with taking data collected from the website (ticket details such as number of tickets, type of tickets, dates etc, contact details including email and SMS, data protection opt in) as a CSV file?

    Credit card transactions are handled by protyx.

    thanks and regards

    John Swinburn

    Harewood House

  2. Denis Kondopoulos

    Technical Project Manager (MBA, MBCS, CITP, CEng) at Naxtech.com

    22 September 2008 13:02pm

    Denis Kondopoulos

    Hi John,

    from a business viewpoint the format that you use to transfer the data is not really that important, given that you ensure that the data are protected and do not  leak during the transfer.  Now, from a technical viewpoint, if all you are trying to do is to to "migrate" data....either CSV or XML should be fine.  I'd say..just use whatever  is most convenient.  I'd use XML only if you'd be planning to make the data more readily available to 3rd parties/systems.

    Naturally I am generalising here, as I am not aware of the exact circumnstances, but I hope the above help.

    regards,

    Denis
    www.naxtech.com

  3. dan barker

    E-Business Consultant at Dan Barker

    22 September 2008 15:32pm

    dan barker

    hiya, John,

    as Denis says - can't see any difference between XML & CSV if you've described all the requirements. Has your agency said what they feel the advantage would be?

    daniel

  4. Ed Stivala

    Managing Director at n3w media

    22 September 2008 19:47pm

    Ed Stivala

    Hello John,

    I think your database supplier is on the right track here - if they can support CSV files then your web agency should have no issue in ceating output files in that format.

    If you have plans to make this data available to others (highly unlikely given the nature of the data you are describing!) or wanted a more generic format then there might be a case for thinking about using XML . But to be honest, in your situation I can't help thinking that there would be no benefit what so ever.

    Re 'what are the issues in using CSV', none in the case you describe. XML would be a different layout for the file, but I can't see that it would be better.

    In fact if your database supplier doesn't support it then it all becomes irrelevant anyway really :-)

    Kind Regards

    Ed

    http://www.n3wmedia.com

  5. John Swinburn Silver

    Senior marketing officer - online at MyScience.co Ltd

    22 September 2008 20:32pm

    John Swinburn

    On 13:02:35 22 September 2008 DenisK wrote:

    Hi John,

    from a business viewpoint the format that you use to transfer the data is not really that important, given that you ensure that the data are protected and do not  leak during the transfer.  Now, from a technical viewpoint, if all you are trying to do is to to "migrate" data....either CSV or XML should be fine.  I'd say..just use whatever  is most convenient.  I'd use XML only if you'd be planning to make the data more readily available to 3rd parties/systems.

    Naturally I am generalising here, as I am not aware of the exact circumnstances, but I hope the above help.

    regards,

    Denis
    www.naxtech.com

    thanks Denis, as it is only data that relates to our web transactions, which wouldn't be available to 3rd parties then it sounds like i'm fine.  Appreciate your input

  6. John Swinburn Silver

    Senior marketing officer - online at MyScience.co Ltd

    22 September 2008 20:35pm

    John Swinburn

    On 15:32:20 22 September 2008 danielb wrote:

    hiya, John,

    as Denis says - can't see any difference between XML & CSV if you've described all the requirements. Has your agency said what they feel the advantage would be?

    daniel

    Hi Daniel, I was meeting with an agency which is pitching for the website and we were talking about the transfer process of data from the website into the database.  So I shall wait and see when they do a full pitch after they have talked to the database provider.... I may well see a double pitch for the database as well!

    thanks

    John

  7. John Swinburn Silver

    Senior marketing officer - online at MyScience.co Ltd

    22 September 2008 20:39pm

    John Swinburn

    On 19:47:49 22 September 2008 EdStivala wrote:

    Hello John,

    I think your database supplier is on the right track here - if they can support CSV files then your web agency should have no issue in ceating output files in that format.

    If you have plans to make this data available to others (highly unlikely given the nature of the data you are describing!) or wanted a more generic format then there might be a case for thinking about using XML . But to be honest, in your situation I can't help thinking that there would be no benefit what so ever.

    Re 'what are the issues in using CSV', none in the case you describe. XML would be a different layout for the file, but I can't see that it would be better.

    In fact if your database supplier doesn't support it then it all becomes irrelevant anyway really :-)

    Kind Regards

    Ed

    http://www.n3wmedia.com

     Cheers Ed, the only 3rd party might be an ESP supplier, but since we manually import CSV files for them at the moment i can't see that as an issue.

    John

  8. jason geo

    drivenwide

    22 September 2008 22:56pm

    jason geo

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    geovani

    www.drivenwide.com

  9. jason geo

    drivenwide

    22 September 2008 23:03pm

    jason geo

    Advanced scheduling - xSQL Profiler provides a powerful scheduling utility that allows the user to define multiple intervals during which the trace should be running on the selected servers. Those intervals can be scheduled to occur only once or recur every day, week or month.Flexible reporting interface - the view trace data capability allows you to filter the data based on event type, server, database, user, datetime, text of the event. You can further group the data based on any of the displayed columns by simply dragging and dropping a column header. In addition, xSQL Profiler gives the user the ultimate power by providing for direct querying of the xSQL Profiler database
    Use for performance, auditing and compliance - the flexibility of xSQL Profiler makes it an ideal tool to use for pinpointing SQL Server performance issues, auditing certain events and ensuring that you are in compliance with different sets of regulations such as Sarbanes-Oxley, HIPAA, GLBA, etc.

    geovani

    www.drivenwide.com

  10. tanyaa catherine

    true

    23 September 2008 03:12am

    tanyaa catherine

    Nowadays, Web Services (WSs) play an increasingly important role in Web data management solutions, since they offer a practical solution for accessing and manipulating data sources spanning administrative domains. Nevertheless, they are notoriously slow and transferring large data volumes across WSs becomes the main bottleneck in such WS-based applications. This paper deals with the problem of minimizing at runtime, in a self-managing way, the datatransfer cost of a WS encapsulating a data source. To reducethe transfer cost, the data volume is typically divided intoblocks. In this case, response time exhibits a quadratic-like, non-linear behavior with regards to the block size; as such, minimizing the transfer cost entails finding the optimum block size.
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    Tanyaa
    www.drivenwide.com

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