1. Ashley Friedlein Staff

    CEO at Econsultancy

    13 April 2004 14:28pm

    Ashley Friedlein

    There has been much talk about privacy concerns as regards Google's new e-mail service, Gmail, and the contextual advertising that is served to users. This centres on the point that Google will need to 'read' your e-mails to know which ads are relevant to serve.

    I think there are some more interesting implications. Specifically, I think it is interesting that in a web-search or web-site world plagued by search engine spamming, affiliates ranking too highly, and any other form of search result skewing that is largely *outside* the direct control of search engines, the world of e-mail is much, much more closed and controllable where it is web-based and provided by the search engine.

    The very nature of e-mail as a communications tool means that it is personal and happens amongst a network of interested and inter-related parties. Of course there is e-mail spam but it seems pretty unlikely that Google will allow Adwords to be served into spammers e-mails. By serving contextual advertising into e-mails, rather than websites, there is a higher degree of in-built quality control and relevance - web sites can just sit there and exist, and anyone can stick one up, whereas e-mail communications have a purpose and join interested parties. The content of e-mails via Gmail may belong to the user but effectively Google is using its e-mail users to create targeted content for them and then send their ads on to relevant people. Which is nice.

    Furthermore, I would be surprised if Google don't integrate their Orkut (http://www.orkut.com) offering (an "online community that connects people through a network of trusted friends") into the main body of Google soon. And then they know who you are, and how you are valued within your community, and what your e-mails contain... Then, of course, not all e-mailers using Gmail need be perceived as equal - some are more valuable and valued within their community than others. So surely they can charge a premium for ads served in those e-mails? I'm working out my own CPC as we speak...

  2. Alex Chudnovsky

    Fndr at Majestic12.co.uk

    13 April 2004 17:34pm

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    On 14:28:59 13 April 2004 Ashley wrote:

    >Of course there is e-mail spam but it seems pretty unlikely that > Google will allow Adwords to be served into spammers e-
    > mails.

    Interesting you say it Ashley, but I in order for Google to do that they will have to actually know what is spam and what is not - there is no fool proof universally acceptable method to do that (due to spam mutations) and thus I see no reason to believe that Google will not serve AdWords on spam. In fact I think there will be new kind of spam designed to increase CTRs on certain ads for commission. Remember that Google could not solve problem of search engine spamming despite years of experience in the field.

    Privacy concerns are very serious - you can NOT delete your own mail! In fact your mail becomes (in a way) property of Google and God knows what will be done to it. Personally I don't buy idea that only automated tools will "look" at the data. Imagine some malicious spammer emailing everyone illegal photographs, even if you delete them immediately they will be stored on Google's servers thus implicating you in crime you can't prove you did not commit. Technically speaking mere fact of opening email (and images will be stored on your PC in form of cached files) is illegal on its own but now GMail will make sure its all replicated and stored for future analysis. Is not that great?

    Add to this inevitability of encrypted emails which would kill the idea of targeting by content (even if it works) completely where as search engines will stay.

  3. Mike Grehan Bronze

    Vice President, Global Content Director at Incisive Media

    13 April 2004 19:45pm

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    Hey Ashley,

    >There has been much talk about privacy concerns as regards
    >Google's new e-mail service, Gmail, and the contextual
    >advertising that is served to users. This centres on the
    >point that Google will need to 'read' your e-mails to know
    >which ads are relevant to serve.

    Yuk! What a thought. With all the crap email I get with
    offers to enlarge certain parts of my anatomy or deposit
    a few million dollars in my bank account... heaven only
    knows what kind of ads I'll get served up :-)

    I've had a Yahoo! email account for some time and I've
    completely tuned out to the ads which are thrust at me
    each time I go to compose or read mail.

    Contextual advertising may have an edge on just the
    spurious bank loans or mortgages I used to get offered
    and now ignore with a vengeance. But I think the same
    thing will apply to Gmail and contextual if they go
    that way.

    I log into my email account to write email not look at
    ads. So even if they are targeted at me and the community
    I'm in, they'll still have to be more interesting than
    the very naughty and distracting email I receive!

    >Furthermore, I would be surprised if Google don't
    >integrate their Orkut (http://www.orkut.com) offering (an
    >"online community that connects people through a
    >network of trusted friends") into the main body of
    >Google soon.

    Eric Scmidt has already gone on record to say that
    Orkut will be integrated (softly) into Google:

    http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1104-5177233.html

    The bigger picture is this. Personalisation is a major
    goal for search engines. Much as we refer to a search
    engine as a "black box" - in turn, the search engine
    sees every user as a "black box" - they know so little
    about users.

    In order to serve much better results they really need
    some relevance feedback. And that doesn't have to be a
    vast amount of information: "When you searched for XX
    did you mean the XXX version or the XXXX version?"

    In that way, the search engine can get accustomed to your
    searching habits. Now over at yahoo! they have about 150
    million subscribers and MSN has zillions of them. With
    these communities, they can move much more quickly into
    personalised search. At Yahoo! right now, even if you
    simply want to submit a URL for their free crawl you have
    to become a subscriber first.

    Where does that leave Google? No subscribers, no community
    and trailing behind a little this time. So, first comes Orkut and
    then comes Gmail.

    By the end of the year, all three search giants will have
    a very similar model. All with sticky mail and news search
    and sports search and general purpose search. All with some
    kind of data about the end user "black box".

    It will change the whole idea of the "I rank at number one
    for keyword x" stuff. Just take a little glimpse of where
    they would like search to be positioned with their end user.
    You can see it at Amazon (and they have every detail including
    your credit card) just by popping something into the basket
    and getting "other people who bought, also bought..." or,
    "we have recommendations for you." It's all based on your
    behaviour and history.

    Should we worry about personalised search? Well, you only
    need to feed back whatever you feel you want to. And as the
    search experience gets better you may give more.

    However, it may bring with it the end of search engine
    optimisation as we know it (Jim).

    You can count your cpc's - but personally, I think I'll go
    and take a quick look at the jobs pages :-)

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    30 May 2006 20:39pm

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