As Search Engine Expert I believe all SEO companies are quite aware by now of what is ethical and unethical. This subject is as old as internet forums.
With 10 years of experience and a PhD in E-Business Marketing, I am convinced that even though "in house optimizers" are a basic and known way of implementing optimization, it is a clear reality that under the right SEO company ,results are more than significantly excellent as well as a great cost reduction for companies.
I've met innumerous so called "in house experts" which I can regard more as spammers than anything else. Many of them survive with forums like this one as a way to earn a piece of the industry. Many companies don't know this and they end up asking their own technicians (which are NOT experts in the SEO field) and webmasters about what should be the correct SEO practice to implement for the company. As a simple and logic advice: "Let specialists deal with their own specialty". Webmasters and company technicians are not necesarily SEO experts or SEO marketing specialists. The same way you trust your dentist to deal with your teeth... Let SEO companies deal with SEO issues!
Search Engine marketing is a fast paced, constantly changing industry. My experience and that of many consultants in the United States is that to guarantee the best results... keep it basic! Outsource your SEO solutions and let SEO companies deal with SEO work.
Logic falls under it's own weight...Many SEO companies have a team of experts, consultants and technicians whose work is to study, analyze, research and deliver relevant results to each individual company. With this, I am trying to say...As much as I would like to let my 19 year old university technical web students deal with SEO work, I believe search engine marketing should be dealt by SEO companies.
In terms of ethical or unethical...as Search Engines are neutral to SEO companies, make sure search engine guidelines compliances are deliver in separate sheets, whereby stating that they comply with the rules and regulations of each individual search engine. Ask for technical specifications and clear patterns of communications.
I am from Spain. I am currently working with Jajja with fantastic results. In Spain we are far behind than U.S.A, England and the Nordic region so I do admit, Mr.David that outsourcing seo is the best I did as technicians here are not that knowledge of search engine marketing. I am glad that Jajja is in Spain now. As soon as we get 3 months of ROI analysis, I have more websites which i want to give to Jajja before it becomes a hit in Spain.
I personally had the privilege of meeting Jajja's CTO at the last Online Marketing Conference in England (Search Engine Strategies). I have to admit that Jajja's CTO is among the best in Europe, even perhaps the US. I believe Jajja is one of the largest SEO's in Europe with perhaps the largest technical staff in Eastern, Central and Northern Europe. Their SEO techniques are quite unique and innovative like that of many well reknowned Scandinavian IT companies. From clients I know in the industry and professionals within the SEO Field, Jajja is by far an Ethical SEO company.
David, My experience dictates and agrees with you about SEO companies. Let experts deal with what they know best. I am a firm believer that SEO practices are the best and cheapest marketing strategy a company should have. After all, it is as direct as it can get. Marketing directors spend millions of dollars on banners, direct marketing, newspaper ads and advertisement which generates zero ROI, yet they still haven't realized that the internet is the fastest and easiest way to generate business. When people use search engines, that is the direct action of a client looking to purchase a product or service. If you are nowhere to be found... Basically people wont buy your products or services. It is as simple as that...
I stopped wasting my money on marketing activities that generate zero ROI, more than 70% of my budget goes to SEO companies towards search engine marketing, organic listings, adwords and sponsored links. I am currently working with several SEO companies including Jajja, and other top seo companies in UK and America.
Great posting and so extremely true.
This can be said for most industries can it not ? you must separate the cowboys from the Indians. I think that most company's can now make their own decisions and if they want to go with the cheaper option most of the time they will get stung. I have found like you that even the so called big boys in the industry will use some awful techniques to get their pages ranked. The only way they could really sort this out is to proper regulate the industry. Ben Norman
Peter Eriksson
CEO at Blaha
04 April 2006 06:06am
Jajja is known as unethical, former black hat SEO's in Sweden. Is this article a joke, or just some kind of promotion for Jajja?
I've heard of a bunch of customers coming to other SEO firms in Sweden, after spening 1000's of euros on "seo" that did not work at all, or simply black hat techniques that banned their web site.
So, do not use this firm. I'm warning you. Their knowledge is limited and prices are high for what you get in return.
Peter Eriksson
CEO at Blaha
04 April 2006 06:09am
Innovative? Creating door way pages, is that innovative? Not really. Rather a black hat technique as they just stopped with. They been banned from google before and might be it again.
About their staff. Yes, the firm is pretty large. But it's full of salesmen, not SEO's. On every SEO you will find maybe 100 salesmen.. go figure what that means.
Anonymous
07 October 2010 11:03am
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seo phd at seo seo
16 August 2005 10:39am
Dear Friends,
How can we check unethical seo techniques from good respected ones ?
Ask JAJJA communications about their real clients positioning, let them show you uif they did this work.
Check the source, does it indicate anything about JAJJA communications AB sökmotoroptimering, sökmotormarknadsföring.
Then check the Cache on google , see how google look to their sites.
email me if you need specific materials.
I work as freelancer for larger respected companies and I do belive in SEO consultants in-house and not letting you spending money on SEO companies.
Ask how much time and follow up they deliver, we all know Organic SEO is a matter of
optimization and re-optimization.
Competitveness of the keywords in Search engines Queries.
Yours sincerely,
SEO SEO
South Korea-USA-UK-FRANCE-GERMANY
Ebusiness Marketing Expert at SEO Consultancy
22 August 2005 21:46pm
As Search Engine Expert I believe all SEO companies are quite aware by now of what is ethical and unethical. This subject is as old as internet forums.
With 10 years of experience and a PhD in E-Business Marketing, I am convinced that even though "in house optimizers" are a basic and known way of implementing optimization, it is a clear reality that under the right SEO company ,results are more than significantly excellent as well as a great cost reduction for companies.
I've met innumerous so called "in house experts" which I can regard more as spammers than anything else. Many of them survive with forums like this one as a way to earn a piece of the industry. Many companies don't know this and they end up asking their own technicians (which are NOT experts in the SEO field) and webmasters about what should be the correct SEO practice to implement for the company. As a simple and logic advice: "Let specialists deal with their own specialty". Webmasters and company technicians are not necesarily SEO experts or SEO marketing specialists. The same way you trust your dentist to deal with your teeth... Let SEO companies deal with SEO issues!
Search Engine marketing is a fast paced, constantly changing industry. My experience and that of many consultants in the United States is that to guarantee the best results... keep it basic! Outsource your SEO solutions and let SEO companies deal with SEO work.
Logic falls under it's own weight...Many SEO companies have a team of experts, consultants and technicians whose work is to study, analyze, research and deliver relevant results to each individual company. With this, I am trying to say...As much as I would like to let my 19 year old university technical web students deal with SEO work, I believe search engine marketing should be dealt by SEO companies.
In terms of ethical or unethical...as Search Engines are neutral to SEO companies, make sure search engine guidelines compliances are deliver in separate sheets, whereby stating that they comply with the rules and regulations of each individual search engine. Ask for technical specifications and clear patterns of communications.
Ebusiness director at Private Tourism
22 August 2005 21:59pm
I am from Spain. I am currently working with Jajja with fantastic results. In Spain we are far behind than U.S.A, England and the Nordic region so I do admit, Mr.David that outsourcing seo is the best I did as technicians here are not that knowledge of search engine marketing. I am glad that Jajja is in Spain now. As soon as we get 3 months of ROI analysis, I have more websites which i want to give to Jajja before it becomes a hit in Spain.
CEO at 123 clicks
22 August 2005 22:18pm
I personally had the privilege of meeting Jajja's CTO at the last Online Marketing Conference in England (Search Engine Strategies). I have to admit that Jajja's CTO is among the best in Europe, even perhaps the US. I believe Jajja is one of the largest SEO's in Europe with perhaps the largest technical staff in Eastern, Central and Northern Europe. Their SEO techniques are quite unique and innovative like that of many well reknowned Scandinavian IT companies. From clients I know in the industry and professionals within the SEO Field, Jajja is by far an Ethical SEO company.
Director at ebusiness
22 August 2005 23:06pm
David, My experience dictates and agrees with you about SEO companies. Let experts deal with what they know best. I am a firm believer that SEO practices are the best and cheapest marketing strategy a company should have. After all, it is as direct as it can get. Marketing directors spend millions of dollars on banners, direct marketing, newspaper ads and advertisement which generates zero ROI, yet they still haven't realized that the internet is the fastest and easiest way to generate business. When people use search engines, that is the direct action of a client looking to purchase a product or service. If you are nowhere to be found... Basically people wont buy your products or services. It is as simple as that...
I stopped wasting my money on marketing activities that generate zero ROI, more than 70% of my budget goes to SEO companies towards search engine marketing, organic listings, adwords and sponsored links. I am currently working with several SEO companies including Jajja, and other top seo companies in UK and America.
Great posting and so extremely true.
Ben Norman
02 February 2006 16:59pm
CEO at Blaha
04 April 2006 06:06am
Jajja is known as unethical, former black hat SEO's in Sweden. Is this article a joke, or just some kind of promotion for Jajja?
I've heard of a bunch of customers coming to other SEO firms in Sweden, after spening 1000's of euros on "seo" that did not work at all, or simply black hat techniques that banned their web site.
So, do not use this firm. I'm warning you. Their knowledge is limited and prices are high for what you get in return.
CEO at Blaha
04 April 2006 06:09am
Innovative? Creating door way pages, is that innovative? Not really. Rather a black hat technique as they just stopped with. They been banned from google before and might be it again.
About their staff. Yes, the firm is pretty large. But it's full of salesmen, not SEO's. On every SEO you will find maybe 100 salesmen.. go figure what that means.
07 October 2010 11:03am
Jajja is known as unethical, former black hat SEO's in Sweden. I am a firm believer that SEO practices are the best and cheapest marketing strategy a company should have.
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