1. Nikki Causer

    Head of marketing at IDG

    29 November 2007 13:08pm

    Nikki Causer

    We have emailed our data base with a sign up link to a brand new e newsletter and said if they want to recive it regularly to register.

    Now we are thinking that we may want to e mail the whole database again with the box allready ticked to recieve the new newsletter.

    BUT I am thinking that apart from the annoyance factor there is a legal implication here, am I right? 

    Help gratefully recieved!

  2. Steven Webster

    Head of Ecommerce at Fashion Union

    29 November 2007 14:27pm

    Steven Webster

    Hi Nikki,

    As far as I am aware there is no legal issue in what you are suggesting. I'm assuming that you will be emailing the new newsletter to your exisitng database, who have already opted in to receive email from you, rather than asking your existing database to subscribe to an email newsletter from a third party. If the latter is the case, then you may well find yourself on shaky legal ground.

    Having the opt-in box already checked certainly goes against industry best practice and that's not something that you should ignore. Firstly, you will be seen by your existing base as engaging in "sharp practices" and run the risk of damaging your brand equity. Secondly, recipients that don't actively opt in are significantly more likely to report your mailing as spam, rather than opt out. Don't dismiss the ease with which a recipient can damage your email reputation, and thus your deliverability,  by clicking the "spam" button.

    If you do go ahead with this, you MUST make every effort to draw the recipient's attention to the opt in box and advise them that they need to "uncheck" the box to opt out.

    On a personal note, as someone involved in email marketing I hope you don't go ahead with this. It's these "questionable" decisions which damage our reputation as an industry and makes it all the harder for us to communicate with our bases.

    Hope this helps.

    Steve

  3. Nikki Causer

    Head of marketing at IDG

    29 November 2007 14:35pm

    Nikki Causer

    Hi Steve

    Thanks for this...

    On 14:27:36 29 November 2007 StevenWebster wrote:

    Hi Nikki,

    As far as I am aware there is no legal issue in what you are suggesting. I'm assuming that you will be emailing the new newsletter to your exisitng database, who have already opted in to receive email from you, rather than asking your existing database to subscribe to an email newsletter from a third party. If the latter is the case, then you may well find yourself on shaky legal ground.

    Having the opt-in box already checked certainly goes against industry best practice and that's not something that you should ignore. Firstly, you will be seen by your existing base as engaging in "sharp practices" and run the risk of damaging your brand equity. Secondly, recipients that don't actively opt in are significantly more likely to report your mailing as spam, rather than opt out. Don't dismiss the ease with which a recipient can damage your email reputation, and thus your deliverability,  by clicking the "spam" button.

    If you do go ahead with this, you MUST make every effort to draw the recipient's attention to the opt in box and advise them that they need to "uncheck" the box to opt out.

    On a personal note, as someone involved in email marketing I hope you don't go ahead with this. It's these "questionable" decisions which damage our reputation as an industry and makes it all the harder for us to communicate with our bases.

    Hope this helps.

    Steve

  4. Jonathan Davey

    Director at LiaiseOnline Limited

    03 December 2007 20:36pm

    Jonathan Davey

    If they are your customers then you should have just emailed them introducing your newsletter.

    People get so much stuff today... I used to get 95% opt-in in the good old days! Today, I'm lucky if 50% give me the nod when I ask them and I totally understand why. If I leave it to people to opt-in under their own steam then I anticipate a long wait.

    My guess is you anticipated a double number percentage opt-in and achieved a low single number from taking your approach.

    People are happy to support you if you are an existing supplier... it's in their interests... but they certainly can't be bothered to opt-in... that's admin...

    I suggest you regroup... come up with a jolly interesting series of newsletters... send them out as single messages in the New Year and simply ask people to click on a link if they'd like to get episodes 2-10 of your business builder programme! They'd be mad not to...

    Also, incentivise your sales people to get the opt-in of thier customers... create a competition around it... and these guys should get an 80% opt-in from existing clients...

    Best of luck buidling your database.

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    04 December 2007 16:07pm

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    On 14:27:36 29 November 2007 StevenWebster wrote:

    Hi Nikki,

    As far as I am aware there is no legal issue in what you are suggesting. I'm assuming that you will be emailing the new newsletter to your exisitng database, who have already opted in to receive email from you, rather than asking your existing database to subscribe to an email newsletter from a third party. If the latter is the case, then you may well find yourself on shaky legal ground.

    Having the opt-in box already checked certainly goes against industry best practice and that's not something that you should ignore. Firstly, you will be seen by your existing base as engaging in "sharp practices" and run the risk of damaging your brand equity. Secondly, recipients that don't actively opt in are significantly more likely to report your mailing as spam, rather than opt out. Don't dismiss the ease with which a recipient can damage your email reputation, and thus your deliverability,  by clicking the "spam" button.

    If you do go ahead with this, you MUST make every effort to draw the recipient's attention to the opt in box and advise them that they need to "uncheck" the box to opt out.

    On a personal note, as someone involved in email marketing I hope you don't go ahead with this. It's these "questionable" decisions which damage our reputation as an industry and makes it all the harder for us to communicate with our bases.

    Hope this helps.

    Steve

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    04 December 2007 16:08pm

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