We're going to be some research, and possibly an event, around tools and services for monitoring and testing your web site e.g. uptime, accessibility, metadata and so on.
The following are players that we're aware of - any others we should be including?
Head of eBusiness at Pioneer Investment Management Limited
25 January 2006 10:37am
Ashley - I would recommend you add http://www.alertsite.com to your list. Have been using their monitoring service for 3+ years. Relatively inexpensive with good scheduled and ad-hoc reporting.
Regards,
Graham Kenny
Head of eBusiness
Pioneer Global Investments Limited
On 14:40:54 23 January 2006 Ashley wrote:
We're going to be some research, and possibly an event, around tools and services for monitoring and testing your web site e.g. uptime, accessibility, metadata and so on.
The following are players that we're aware of - any others we should be including?
Oh dear, our marketing doesn't seem to have got us onto your radar Ashley....
Please do add us to the list:
www.scivisum.co.uk
We're UK based, take a comprehensive User Journey based approach to monitoring and stress testing, not unlike Gomex and Keynote but not at their silly price levels.
We've clients from Premium Bonds down to non-profits like local government and the Chartered Institute of marketing and all sectors in between.
On 14:40:54 23 January 2006 Ashley wrote:
We're going to be some research, and possibly an event, around tools and services for monitoring and testing your web site e.g. uptime, accessibility, metadata and so on.
The following are players that we're aware of - any others we should be including?
What you propose to undertake is a HUGE task given the breath of your definition - you might want to think about breaking it down into smaller chunks.
The most valuable workshop you could have is 'How to evaluate 'the right' tool'.
The different types of testing below are very specialised - functional is the easiest and load, performance and stress testing are the most specialised. Out of the entire lot, a CPS qualified LoadRunner specialist is the most unique and rare skill.
I could write a page or two on just explaining the difference between all of these and the 'types' of tools required.
- Load/stress/saturation testing
- Performance testing
- Test automation
- Monitoring - includes uptime
- Functional - such as broken links
- Accessibility - this covers valid markup
Most companies make the same mistake when using testing tools - they buy a tool and then work out what they need it for. It's absolutely vital to work out what you are trying to achieve and then define your test requirements. Only then can you evaluate a list of tools for each requirement. One vendor will rarely be the most approproate for everything. In fact I've never implemented every tool within a toolset for a particular company.
If you just want people to add to your list then you might want to consider some of the biggest test tools vendors on the market, namely Mercury Interactive and Rational. These don't come cheap but we use some of their tools for load, stress and performance testing and test automation as they are 'usually' the most appropriate. We've been doing this for years and still have an entire team dedicated to this type of work - but we don't offer these services as you will know, so I'm not trying to sell them!!
Another testing tool that's just as important is a defect tracking tool. This type of tool can be anything from a simple excel spreadsheet to something more complex such Mercury Test Director. Defining the process for defect management is another area that's very specialised as you must be intimate with how the software development lifecycle works.
It's one thing to use tools to find problems, but you need to communicate the problems to the people responsible for resolving them in a timely manner. Reporting tools are also vital because you need to record what code has been changed so you know what to retest without having to check everything. There's lots of other reasons why you need to use a defect tracking tool but you didn't ask about that LOL.
Not sure I agree with you about the use of specific software tools like LoadRunner/Mercury etc.
Oh, one thing Ashley - a minor usability problem the forums here... the icon to add a URL to a posting is active even if the user hasn't selected some text for their link...so the user can click the URL icon, enter URls and etc and clicking OK, nothing appears in their page... confusing.
Deri
On 23:00:15 27 January 2006 PaulWalsh wrote:
Ashley,
What you propose to undertake is a HUGE task given the breath of your definition - you might want to think about breaking it down into smaller chunks.
Deri, you sell tools so I'm not surprised you disagree. We've always been independent which is why we don't partner with vendors.
I'm not recommending Mercury tools for anything in particular, my advice to Ashley was to 'add them to his list'. You shouldn't ignore the most widely used testing tools worldwide!
BTW LoadRunner is a Mercury tool, not 'another' tool as your note suggests.
Could you please add Moniforce (www.moniforce.com) as Moniforce plans to enter the UK-market in the very near future.
Moniforce offers the following availability & performance monitoring solutions:
- webAlarm = availability monitoring (active monitoring)
- webProbe = performance monitoring (passive monitoring)
- webStress= load & stress testing
I also recommend you to read the latest Forrester report: Managing Performance From The End User Perspective In 2005", available at request at http://www.moniforce.com/Forrester_Report_Managing_Performance_From_The_End
Greetz!
Katja Graaf
Manager Marketing at Moniforce
Matt Tavani
Project Manager at Greenwich Council
30 January 2006 15:34pm
We use www.server-monitoring.co.uk for our site uptime monitoring and alerting. They seem like a small company, but have been very responsive to support issues and feedback about the service, and it is relatively inexpensive.
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CEO at Econsultancy
23 January 2006 14:40pm
We're going to be some research, and possibly an event, around tools and services for monitoring and testing your web site e.g. uptime, accessibility, metadata and so on.
The following are players that we're aware of - any others we should be including?
- Atwatch
- Gomez
- Keynote
- Maxamine
- Silk Tide
- Site Confidence
- Site Morse
- Watchfire
- Webmetrics
Regards
Ashley Friedlein
CEO, E-consultancy.com
Head of eBusiness at Pioneer Investment Management Limited
25 January 2006 10:37am
Ashley - I would recommend you add http://www.alertsite.com to your list. Have been using their monitoring service for 3+ years. Relatively inexpensive with good scheduled and ad-hoc reporting.
Regards,
Graham Kenny
Head of eBusiness
Pioneer Global Investments Limited
On 14:40:54 23 January 2006 Ashley wrote:
managing partner at clickvalue
26 January 2006 15:40pm
http://www.moniforce.com/
CEO at SciVisum.co.uk
27 January 2006 18:28pm
Oh dear, our marketing doesn't seem to have got us onto your radar Ashley....
Please do add us to the list:
www.scivisum.co.uk
We're UK based, take a comprehensive User Journey based approach to monitoring and stress testing, not unlike Gomex and Keynote but not at their silly price levels.
We've clients from Premium Bonds down to non-profits like local government and the Chartered Institute of marketing and all sectors in between.
On 14:40:54 23 January 2006 Ashley wrote:
CEO at Segala
27 January 2006 23:00pm
Ashley,
What you propose to undertake is a HUGE task given the breath of your definition - you might want to think about breaking it down into smaller chunks.
The most valuable workshop you could have is 'How to evaluate 'the right' tool'.
The different types of testing below are very specialised - functional is the easiest and load, performance and stress testing are the most specialised. Out of the entire lot, a CPS qualified LoadRunner specialist is the most unique and rare skill.
I could write a page or two on just explaining the difference between all of these and the 'types' of tools required.
- Load/stress/saturation testing
- Performance testing
- Test automation
- Monitoring - includes uptime
- Functional - such as broken links
- Accessibility - this covers valid markup
Most companies make the same mistake when using testing tools - they buy a tool and then work out what they need it for. It's absolutely vital to work out what you are trying to achieve and then define your test requirements. Only then can you evaluate a list of tools for each requirement. One vendor will rarely be the most approproate for everything. In fact I've never implemented every tool within a toolset for a particular company.
If you just want people to add to your list then you might want to consider some of the biggest test tools vendors on the market, namely Mercury Interactive and Rational. These don't come cheap but we use some of their tools for load, stress and performance testing and test automation as they are 'usually' the most appropriate. We've been doing this for years and still have an entire team dedicated to this type of work - but we don't offer these services as you will know, so I'm not trying to sell them!!
You will find an extensive list of accessibility tools at http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/existingtools.html#Evaluation
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Another testing tool that's just as important is a defect tracking tool. This type of tool can be anything from a simple excel spreadsheet to something more complex such Mercury Test Director. Defining the process for defect management is another area that's very specialised as you must be intimate with how the software development lifecycle works.
It's one thing to use tools to find problems, but you need to communicate the problems to the people responsible for resolving them in a timely manner. Reporting tools are also vital because you need to record what code has been changed so you know what to retest without having to check everything. There's lots of other reasons why you need to use a defect tracking tool but you didn't ask about that LOL.
Hope this helps
Paul
Segala
CEO at SciVisum.co.uk
30 January 2006 11:11am
You're not wrong Paul, Ashley's list is broad.
Not sure I agree with you about the use of specific software tools like LoadRunner/Mercury etc.
Oh, one thing Ashley - a minor usability problem the forums here... the icon to add a URL to a posting is active even if the user hasn't selected some text for their link...so the user can click the URL icon, enter URls and etc and clicking OK, nothing appears in their page... confusing.
Deri
On 23:00:15 27 January 2006 PaulWalsh wrote:
CEO at Segala
30 January 2006 11:54am
Deri, you sell tools so I'm not surprised you disagree. We've always been independent which is why we don't partner with vendors.
I'm not recommending Mercury tools for anything in particular, my advice to Ashley was to 'add them to his list'. You shouldn't ignore the most widely used testing tools worldwide!
BTW LoadRunner is a Mercury tool, not 'another' tool as your note suggests.
Unfortunately I'm not familar with your tools :)
Paul
Moniforce B.V.
30 January 2006 15:18pm
Could you please add Moniforce (www.moniforce.com) as Moniforce plans to enter the UK-market in the very near future.
Moniforce offers the following availability & performance monitoring solutions:
- webAlarm = availability monitoring (active monitoring)
- webProbe = performance monitoring (passive monitoring)
- webStress= load & stress testing
I also recommend you to read the latest Forrester report: Managing Performance From The End User Perspective In 2005", available at request at http://www.moniforce.com/Forrester_Report_Managing_Performance_From_The_End
Greetz!
Katja Graaf
Manager Marketing at Moniforce
Project Manager at Greenwich Council
30 January 2006 15:34pm
We use www.server-monitoring.co.uk for our site uptime monitoring and alerting. They seem like a small company, but have been very responsive to support issues and feedback about the service, and it is relatively inexpensive.
SVP Marketing Technology at MARC USA
31 January 2006 10:47am
You could add WhatsUp Gold for network/server status monitoring.