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Senior Consultant at Doberman UK
29 October 2001 18:49pm
Hi all,
I worked with Vingette a couple of years ago and vowed once is enough. Well apparently not, i have a pitch early next week and yes Vingette has managed to re- emerge.
What i am interested in is if anyone has had any recent experience of the product and what were the main plus and minus points about it, deploying it or using it.
For example Vingette Storyserver used a propritry code (tcl) which was quite a drawback if you didn't know it but i now Vingette no longer uses this propritry cose and has quite an open structure.
Any comments or redirects to other info sources would be most welcome.
CEO at Econsultancy
01 November 2001 07:29am
I too would like to hear an update from anyone who has had recent experience of implementing and working with Vignette.
They have much improved their support for open standards e.g.
- you can use ASP if you are in a MS environment, Java/JSP in UNIX (Solaris or AIX) environment
- Tcl is still supported in both environments, and they support mixed tcl/ASP or JSP applications. - They now support and leverage standard web app servers (WebLogic, WebSphere & iPlanet).
The StoryServer product no longer exists – it’s been subsumed into the Vignette V6 Content Suite which covers a wide range of functionality, across content management (creation, management, and delivery, including personalization), content integration and analytical capabilities. They also have a range of packaged application products - for example Enterprise Application Portal. More on their website at http://www.vignette.com
It’s interesting to see how everyone’s positioning subtly changes… The focus has moved back away from a “personalisation platform” emphasis to content management (NB Vignette V6 *Content* Suite). What are Broadvision these days? Personalisation, Content Management, E-commerce? All 3 no doubt.
A decent e-commerce platform is clearly a must have if you’re an e-commerce operation and companies are beginning to realise the importance (and challenges) of effective (read cost effective) content management. The poll currently running on this site (http://www.e-consultancy.com/poll/vote.asp?id=7) shows the growing interest in content management. About time too.
I expect a focus on managing user data in a holistic and enterprise way (more the eCRM / personalisation angle) will come next but there’s a lot to sort out in the meantime.
But back to the original question – anyone implemented Vignette (or other CMSs for that matter) recently and care to comment?
large respected Canadian organization
21 April 2008 00:59am
Base on my 10+ years experience working with various Content Management Systems (CMS) and 6 months using Vignette I can affirm that Vignette is THE worst CMS I have ever worked with.
I’m working for a large respected Canadian organization and we are very unhappy with Vignette. We are switching to another CMS. I won’t tell the name of the new CMS or the organization. I’m expressing my personal opinion here. And I don’t want to make publicity for the other tool before trying it.
Here are some naked facts about Vignette:
CONS:
- Their tech support is poor and slow. They aren’t able to fix simple Vignette bugs.
- Very expensive in our case $250,000 to $500,000 so far and growing.
- Vignette is mostly a Consultingware: A CMS first developed for a limited number of consulting clients, then hastily rebranded as a “product” matching everybody needs. The fact is it doesn’t match OUR needs.
- Counter-productive tool for employees. Awful workflow.
- Poor documentation & support from Vignette.
- Steep learning curve. Complicated interface.
- Security features are dangerously weak. Easy for concurrents to access sensitive information. A friend of mine is testing security features as a living to prevent hacking, according to his testing it takes less than 5 minutes to hack Vignette and access sensitive information.
PRO: Sales team.
More reviews from other Vignette users: http://www.cmsmatrix.org/vignette-cmportalsolution/vignette-cms-whos-using-it
Web Content Manager at esure
21 April 2008 17:36pm
I just wondered what experienced CMS users/developers think about Tridion vs Stellent? Are both of them better than Vignette and If I had the option to choose and focus my career on a CMS, which one is better?
On 00:59:50 21 April 2008 cmsreviews wrote:
CSR EMEA at Interwoven
18 September 2008 16:25pm
Hi,
Have you considered Interwoven Teamsite?
Aurelia