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  1. Alan O'Rourke

    MD at Spoiltchild

    26 September 2008 15:05pm

    Alan O'Rourke

    Hi Guys, its business plan time :)
    Painful as it is it must be done.

    Can anyone point me in the direction of a rough figure of the market share of the leading Email Service Providers, constant contact etc. Even a top 10 list would help. Ant e-consultancy research cover this?

    Thanks,

    Alan

  2. Anne Collet

    Marketing Manager at Pure 360

    26 September 2008 15:16pm

    Anne Collet

    On 15:05:18 26 September 2008 AlanORourke wrote:

    Hi Guys, its business plan time :)
    Painful as it is it must be done.

    Can anyone point me in the direction of a rough figure of the market share of the leading Email Service Providers, constant contact etc. Even a top 10 list would help. Ant e-consultancy research cover this?

    Thanks,

    Alan


    Hi Alan - Maybe the Email buyers guide 2008 published by e-consultancy could be a good starting point.

  3. Alan O'Rourke

    MD at Spoiltchild

    26 September 2008 15:22pm

    Alan O'Rourke

    Thanks Annepure360, i have been through that and while it is great for detailing what they offer its not great for business size or market share. I dont suppose the companies themselves want to be giving this information :)

  4. Anne Collet

    Marketing Manager at Pure 360

    26 September 2008 15:37pm

    Anne Collet

    On 15:22:46 26 September 2008 AlanORourke wrote:

    Thanks Annepure360, i have been through that and while it is great for detailing what they offer its not great for business size or market share. I dont suppose the companies themselves want to be giving this information :)

    No Alan, indeed...

  5. Dela Quist

    Email Marketing Evangelist & CEO at Alchemy Worx Ltd - 100% Email Marketing

    27 September 2008 12:17pm

    Dela Quist

    On 15:05:18 26 September 2008 AlanORourke wrote:

    Hi Guys, its business plan time :)
    Painful as it is it must be done.

    Can anyone point me in the direction of a rough figure of the market share of the leading Email Service Providers, constant contact etc. Even a top 10 list would help. Ant e-consultancy research cover this?

    Thanks,

    Alan

    Hi Alan

    Alchemy Worx is a digital marketing agency with a 100% focus on email, we use or have used many of the leading ESP platforms to deploy campaigns on behalf of our clients, including; Bluestreak, Cheetahmail, Digital Impact, Dreammail, Dynamic Messenger, Eloqua, Emailvision, Exacttarget, Ezemail, Lyris, Responsys, Silverpop and Twelve Horses.

    We would not use market share as a benchmark.

    I would be interested to know which platforms you are considering, but if you were to ask anyone in Alchemy Worx to list what criteria they would use to select which of those platforms to use for any given client; market share would probably not make it into the top 100. 

    You may have seen this already, but here is a link to a blog on choosing an ESP that I posted here on this site in January.

    http://www.e-consultancy.com/news-blog/364902/choosing-an-email-service-provider.html

    Hope that helps

    Dela

  6. Alan O'Rourke

    MD at Spoiltchild

    29 September 2008 15:24pm

    Alan O'Rourke

    Thanks Dela, but it is the Market Share information i am looking for.


  7. Ashley Friedlein Staff

    CEO at Econsultancy

    29 September 2008 17:01pm

    Ashley Friedlein

    Hi Alan

    Ideally, how would you like 'market share'? By volume of emails sent? By turnover? Profit?

    They're all a bit tricky and not necessarily good indicators of quality.

    I guess you're just after some externally-quotable list of the 'usual suspects' or 'larger players' in the market for some presentation?

    I wouldn't base my business plan on this but I can see why you might need it.

    I would just take our list of companies in our Email Marketing Platforms Buyers Guide (http://www.e-consultancy.com/publications/email-marketing-buyers-guide-2008/) and then take the largest by turnover and/or companies with a presence in other countries (the big U.S. and French ones in there) and/or companies that are part of larger groups.

    And if you can't be bothered to do that, let me know, and I might get round to doing it myself at some point.. ;)

    Ashley

  8. Jeff Barnes Silver

    Partner at Keynet

    01 October 2008 12:05pm

    Jeff Barnes

    Alan,

    Ashley is right - it is really tough to rank ESP's unless you know by what you are ranking them. Added to which of course is the fact that many of them, ourselves included, are privately owned and so most of the metrics are not in the public domain.

    Perhaps you could try using number of customers as a criteria? You will not be surprised that this suggestion comes from a company that probably has one of the biggest! That said it is probably as good a yardstick as anything as it will also have a bearing on the number of emails sent, company revenues, number of employees etc.

    Jeff

  9. Alan O'Rourke

    MD at Spoiltchild

    01 October 2008 12:18pm

    Alan O'Rourke

    Thanks for all the responses guys and I understand your points. While I have some pretty good metrics on the particular segment we are entering I was hoping there might be something to give a non industry person / investor a quick overview of the market.
    Customer numbers might be a way to go but as you guys mention that does not represent the value of the business as they can be very different.
    I will make do. Thanks again.

  10. Mike Weston Gold

    Managing Director at Profusion

    02 October 2008 12:31pm

    Mike Weston

    I smiled when I read this.

    Of course, customer number is one count, but doesn't really talk scale: you're best advised to consider who works with companies whose email campaigns you admire - or a supplier who has the best fit to your specific requirements.

    Suppliers who have smaller 'client' counts may well be larger, better able to meet your specific - maybe complex? - requirements.

    I can't think of a better starting place than eConsultancy's excellent vendor profile document that was published recently.

    MW

    On 12:05:22 1 October 2008 JeffBarnes wrote:
    >Alan,
    >
    >Ashley is right - it is really tough to rank ESP's unless
    >you know by what you are ranking them. Added to which of
    >course is the fact that many of them, ourselves included,
    >are privately owned and so most of the metrics are not in
    >the public domain.
    >
    >Perhaps you could try using number of customers as a
    >criteria? You will not be surprised that this suggestion
    >comes from a company that probably has one of the biggest!
    >That said it is probably as good a yardstick as anything
    >as it will also have a bearing on the number of emails
    >sent, company revenues, number of employees etc.
    >
    >Jeff
    >

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