1. Daniel Phillips

    Online Marketing / SEO at forum30.co.uk

    09 January 2008 12:59pm

    Daniel Phillips

    I need some help here.

    Our site attracts a decent amount of traffic (25,000 unique daily visitors visiting about 100,000 pages every day).  Our revenue is generated through car dealers who advertise on the site or buy car leads that come in via the site.

    We're looking to supplement our main revenue stream by selling banner advertising on the site.  We've spoken to a few networks about being a publisher with a view to running specific (car-related, finance related, etc.) campaigns, as well as a 'back-fill' of RON campaigns.

    I thought this would be a simple exercise, and that the networks would be interested in one of the top 10 car sales websites in the UK (in terms of traffic), and that it would be a very attractive site for their advertisers.  But it seems that I'm running pretty hard to get absolutely nowhere at the moment. 

    Can anyone recommend a good network who can get things up and running without a long delay and lots of fuss and agro?  If you have a contact there as well, that would be excellent.

    Many thanks,

    Daniel

  2. Sabo Fabrice Gold

    E-Commerce Marketing Manager EMEA at Micron (www.crucial.com)

    10 January 2008 08:57am

    Sabo Fabrice

    I'm surprised that the big networks aren't interested. Have you tried advertising.com, DrivePM or VCMedia? Failing to get a deal with them, and if you have some resource available inhouse, you can always try to sell your inventory direct, you will get much more money out of it and will later benefit from an established relationship with advertisers relevant to your industry. It is also offers the advantage to get a better controll over the ads that will be displayed on your site.

  3. Thomas Casill

    RockAway Technology

    10 January 2008 12:30pm

    Thomas Casill

    I would suggest that you hire a Good Quality SEO firm for your purpose.They are professionals and should quite easily do the trick.

  4. Daniel Phillips

    Online Marketing / SEO at forum30.co.uk

    11 January 2008 09:28am

    Daniel Phillips

    Thanks Fabrice.

    I've contacted a fair few, and some have got back to me and I'm still waiting for others.  we're looking for CPM campaigns to make the most out of the traffic to the site.

    Ideally, what we're looking for are some high-earning, focused campaigns, and then a pass-through RON campaign (which would still be delivering relevant ads) which will still generate a decent revenue.

    Selling the inventory direct is an interesting option, but we're only a very small team probably without the necessary time to dedicate to this.  To be honest, I wouldn't know the best way of approaching this.  Are you suggesting going directly to the advertisers (such as the car manufacturers?) and seeing what they say?  I guess it would remove the middle-men and ensure we get 100% of the revenue from the advertising rather than others taking out their cut along the way.

    On 08:57:59 10 January 2008 FabriceSabo wrote:

    I'm surprised that the big networks aren't interested. Have you tried advertising.com, DrivePM or VCMedia? Failing to get a deal with them, and if you have some resource available inhouse, you can always try to sell your inventory direct, you will get much more money out of it and will later benefit from an established relationship with advertisers relevant to your industry. It is also offers the advantage to get a better control over the ads that will be displayed on your site.
  5. Sabo Fabrice Gold

    E-Commerce Marketing Manager EMEA at Micron (www.crucial.com)

    11 January 2008 09:56am

    Sabo Fabrice

    That is probably a very much time consuming job to deal direct / establish relationship with the advertisers and if you are a very small team, that may be difficult. another option could be to contact advertising agencies who manages accounts such as car manufacturer and give them the right sales pitch why they should add your site to their media plan.

    On 09:28:02 11 January 2008 DanielPhillips wrote:

    Thanks Fabrice.

    I've contacted a fair few, and some have got back to me and I'm still waiting for others.  we're looking for CPM campaigns to make the most out of the traffic to the site.

    Ideally, what we're looking for are some high-earning, focused campaigns, and then a pass-through RON campaign (which would still be delivering relevant ads) which will still generate a decent revenue.

    Selling the inventory direct is an interesting option, but we're only a very small team probably without the necessary time to dedicate to this.  To be honest, I wouldn't know the best way of approaching this.  Are you suggesting going directly to the advertisers (such as the car manufacturers?) and seeing what they say?  I guess it would remove the middle-men and ensure we get 100% of the revenue from the advertising rather than others taking out their cut along the way.

    On 08:57:59 10 January 2008 FabriceSabo wrote:

    I'm surprised that the big networks aren't interested. Have you tried advertising.com, DrivePM or VCMedia? Failing to get a deal with them, and if you have some resource available inhouse, you can always try to sell your inventory direct, you will get much more money out of it and will later benefit from an established relationship with advertisers relevant to your industry. It is also offers the advantage to get a better control over the ads that will be displayed on your site.
  6. Daniel Phillips

    Online Marketing / SEO at forum30.co.uk

    11 January 2008 09:58am

    Daniel Phillips

    Probably a stupid question, but how would I know which ad agencies deal with which car manufacturers? 

    I guess I'll have to do some Googling...

    Thanks again.

    On 09:56:22 11 January 2008 FabriceSabo wrote:

    That is probably a very much time consuming job to deal direct / establish relationship with the advertisers and if you are a very small team, that may be difficult. another option could be to contact advertising agencies who manages accounts such as car manufacturer and give them the right sales pitch why they should add your site to their media plan.

    On 09:28:02 11 January 2008 DanielPhillips wrote:

    Thanks Fabrice.

    I've contacted a fair few, and some have got back to me and I'm still waiting for others.  we're looking for CPM campaigns to make the most out of the traffic to the site.

    Ideally, what we're looking for are some high-earning, focused campaigns, and then a pass-through RON campaign (which would still be delivering relevant ads) which will still generate a decent revenue.

    Selling the inventory direct is an interesting option, but we're only a very small team probably without the necessary time to dedicate to this.  To be honest, I wouldn't know the best way of approaching this.  Are you suggesting going directly to the advertisers (such as the car manufacturers?) and seeing what they say?  I guess it would remove the middle-men and ensure we get 100% of the revenue from the advertising rather than others taking out their cut along the way.

    On 08:57:59 10 January 2008 FabriceSabo wrote:

    I'm surprised that the big networks aren't interested. Have you tried advertising.com, DrivePM or VCMedia? Failing to get a deal with them, and if you have some resource available inhouse, you can always try to sell your inventory direct, you will get much more money out of it and will later benefit from an established relationship with advertisers relevant to your industry. It is also offers the advantage to get a better control over the ads that will be displayed on your site.
  7. Daniel Phillips

    Online Marketing / SEO at forum30.co.uk

    17 January 2008 14:10pm

    Daniel Phillips

    A quick update.

    I've contacted half a dozen now, and waiting for ALL of them to get back to me.  I have managed to speak to two people on the phone, but unfortunately not the right people.  I'm then told that the 'right' person will call me back when they are free - but not to expect a call today!

    Don't these people want to generate additional revenue for themselves? 

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