1. Tony Addison Silver

    Managing Director at Free Rein Ltd

    21 September 2008 15:43pm

    Tony Addison

    Hi

    We are a small Internet Marketing company that has just reached the stage where we need to introduce a software package that we can all share to:

    • Help the Project Manager manage his projects and resources
    • Probably get the commercial staff to use it for quotes and planning
    • Get everyone to use it for time sheets
    • Etc

    Naturally it goes against the grain spending too much but we don't want to have to use our own tech team to build one.

    Advice please from people who have introduced one and how you went about choosing.

    The team is 7 today but will grow over the next, say, three years to about 15 so it needs to be able to expand. At the moment we are 50:50 split between commercial and technical (PM in between) and this will grow in much the same pattern as we mix larger projects with CMS sites and Email systems from the growing sales team.

    Thanks in anticpation

    Tony Addison

  2. Denis Kondopoulos

    Technical Project Manager (MBA, MBCS, CITP, CEng) at Naxtech.com

    22 September 2008 00:49am

    Denis Kondopoulos

    Hi Tony,

    I understand the issue extremely well as we also went through the same phase. 

    I do not think there is ready-made software which can do all the things you need.  You may find software only for accounting or only for sort-of crm or project management but I have not seen anything that is all-in-one.   So most people may end up with  Sage+ACT or MS Accounting + CRM/BCM or all sorts of other combinations. 

    Either way, such a system starts to get complex and technical issues can lead to all sort of trouble.  So, personally I made the choice of doing something bespoke internally, which is something we're currently working on.

    I cannot tell you which option is the best for you but I hope the above help.  If however you find another option I will be more than happy to hear it.  Alternatively, if you go for the custom-solution and do not want to make use of internal resources, if you'd be considering the option of outsourcing the development of the system, let me know as I may be able to help.

    regards,

    Denis
    www.naxtech.com

  3. Otis Ogle

    Website Marketer at Internet Power Systems LTD

    22 September 2008 13:20pm

    Otis Ogle

    Not sure if this is what you're after my friend.

    As a company, we help to run and manage your business... online. It's part of a 6-step-process.

    One of the processes is implementing a software package that our team created, and owns. Here is an explanation of that product:

    Including contact management, a fully integrated e-mail system, plus accounting(General Ledger, Sales Ledger, Sales order processing, stock control...), document filing, diaries, other collobarative tools all online, accessible 24/7 from anywhere in the world.

    As the system is web-based, there is no installation, or support issues. The good news is that for a limited period the system is being offered free of charge for a whole year, for less than 10 users. From after the first year, the ongoing cost is £60 pound a month for support, and development of the product.

    There is also a income oppurtunity here, as referalls will be rewarded with half of the support fee being paid back to the referer once the £60pound support charge comes into effect after 12 months.

    As well as that, there is another step, setting up the internet marketing department. Now you are already participating in this type of advertising, so we may not be able to offer much. However we have another product that ties in all of your networking sites, a place to store all passwords, tonnes of resources, and a place to store your affiliate links ect. This is additonaly all online..

    If you would like to talk you can phone 01923 234 170, visit the blog on www.ips.co.uk (6 steps on the right). You don't have to participate in all 6 steps :) or you can e-mail myself, or Chris on  

    Is this what you're possibly after?

  4. Sonia Kay Gold

    Consultant at 120 Feet

    23 September 2008 15:14pm

    Sonia Kay

    Hi Tony,

    I was having this same conversation with someone today funnily enough. Both of us work in organisations that have just implemented harvest for timesheets which is a real quantum leap forward. Inexpensive and easy to use (the hardest thing about timesheets is getting people to fill them in so having an easy browser based interface is great).

    We were also in agreement that there isn't a solution that does the timesheet stuff well and is also as good doing the other resource planning and management requirements you have. So in my case I use a combination of MS project, work in progress reports and weekly face to face meetings to manage resources, and we use harvest to reconcile our hours.

    Sonia

    On 15:43:20 21 September 2008 TonyAddison1 wrote:
    >Hi
    >
    >We are a small Internet Marketing company that has just
    >reached the stage where we need to introduce a software
    >package that we can all share to:
    >
    >- Help the Project Manager manage his projects and
    >resources
    >
    >- Probably get the commercial staff to use it for quotes
    >and planning
    >
    >- Get everyone to use it for time sheets
    >
    >- Etc
    >
    >Naturally it goes against the grain spending too much but
    >we don't want to have to use our own tech team to build
    >one.
    >
    >Advice please from people who have introduced one and how
    >you went about choosing.
    >
    >The team is 7 today but will grow over the next, say,
    >three years to about 15 so it needs to be able to expand.
    >At the moment we are 50:50 split between commercial and
    >technical (PM in between) and this will grow in much the
    >same pattern as we mix larger projects with CMS sites and
    >Email systems from the growing sales team.
    >
    >Thanks in anticpation
    >
    >Tony Addison

  5. Anthony Leaton

    Freelance at Emarketing Manager

    24 September 2008 07:28am

    Anthony Leaton

    I'm unsure of pricing but I've used INNATE some time ago. They've been around for years.

    They use web based spreadsheets to store your data on a SQL Server or Oracle and can synch with MS Project. There's also web based reports ideal for remote collaboration.

    http://www.innate.co.uk/

  6. Ed Stivala

    Managing Director at n3w media

    24 September 2008 07:39am

    Ed Stivala

    Hi Tony,

    Sounds to me like there is a real gap in the market here!

    I looked for something similar a while ago and was unable to find anything that covered all of the areas of functionality, so gave up and now just use a mix of products as others have described. It's not ideal, but it just about works.

    Perhaps you should finish developing your software and launch that? Not done any market research, but gut feel is that there would be a market for it.

    Kind Regards

    Ed
    http://www.n3wmedia.com

  7. Tony Addison Silver

    Managing Director at Free Rein Ltd

    29 September 2008 08:37am

    Tony Addison

    Thank you all for your replies and comments. We had already looked at Synergist (one of the more expensice), Pro Ad (used by a couple of our design partners and mid range) and the open source "project open".

    Innate was new to me and thanks for the link. We are just starting to have a closer look at that and I'll let you know how we get on.

    The problem for a small company has been cost related. Buying at the top end (could be as much as £2000 per head) does give you a system configured to work pretty much how we do. Using open source means a lot of changes and configuration - resource time we can ill afford. Unfortunately mid price, so far, does work how we want it to and is unlikely to be configurable to do so.

    What I have found is that there is a lot out there that can do it, just needs someone to have done an e-consultancy report on the project. Ashley?

    I'll let you know how we get on.

    Thanks again

    Tony Addison

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