1. Katherine Hesketh

    Online Communications Officer at Brit Insurance

    04 June 2009 15:03pm

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    Does anyone know of any freely available information which compares SharePoint MOSS to other CMS? A Google search reveals a whole world of opinions but we're looking for something official, to be used in a business case. We're facing probably a familiar story around IT puchasing SharePoint, without figuring out whether it's the best tool from a Marketing point of view.

  2. Matthew O'Riordan Staff

    Founder / Director / Co-founder at easyBacklog / Aqueduct / Econsultancy

    04 June 2009 15:48pm

    Matthew O'Riordan

    Hi there

    Firstly, Sharepoint is not really a CMS.  It has CMS features which were brought in from the now redundant MS CMS Server, but Sharepoint is not just a CMS, it's collaboration platform, a document management platform, provides enterprise search, built to integrate with your Microsoft network and is really designed as an Intranet platform.

    Are you looking to use Sharepoint as CMS to drive internally focussed sites (i.e. an Intranet) or are you looking to use Sharepoint for public facing content?  If the latter, you will struggle to find any decent case studies to support its use.

    Regards,

    Matthew O'Riordan
    Aqueduct
    www.aqueduct.co.uk

  3. Katherine Hesketh

    Online Communications Officer at Brit Insurance

    04 June 2009 16:23pm

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    Totally in agreement with you there, it's a round peg in a square hole as far as we are concerned. However, as we're being more or less forced down this route, we're looking for support which would prove our point - that it's not the tool for the job. We're looking for a tool for an intranet, a public site and an extranet.

  4. Denis Kondopoulos

    Technical Project Manager (MBA, MBCS, CITP, CEng) at Naxtech.com

    04 June 2009 22:07pm

    Denis Kondopoulos

    hhmm..  intranet, extranet and public site....

    May I suggest Lotes Domino then (or perhaps even Websphere Portal).  I have not used its latest versions but based on what you are saying it certainly sounds like the perfect solution.  I'd highly recommend it.  (see: http://www-01.ibm.com/software/lotus/products/domino/)  It is more a more corporate-style solution that MOSS and has been around for ages (ie. a mature product).

    On the MOSS side of things...to use MOSS on the internet/extranet/intranel you'd also need to buy the license for the relevant connector which is quite expensive...at least a dozen times more expensive than the MOSS license itself (last time I looked anyway!).

    It all comes down to your exact needs really and your priorities, but I hope the above help.

    regards,

    Denis
    www.naxtech.com

  5. Tim Parfitt Silver

    CEO at Netcel

    05 June 2009 10:02am

    Tim Parfitt

    I totally agree with Matthew.  SharePoint is a good tool but is not right for all sites.  There is a misconception that it is a silver bullet when it comes to CMS.  While SharePoint has its strengths, we have found through bitter experience that is also has a lot of weaknesses.  It's worth trying to find SharePoint websites (there are not that many, relatively speaking) and talking to the site editors about their experiences with the product.

    My company, Netcel, specialises in deploying solutions based on three CMS products.  We will consider the site objectives and requirements of our clients and then suggest what we believe is the most appropriate CMS to meet our clients' requirements.  The three we specialise in are SharePoint, EPiServer CMS and RedDot CMS.

    You need to do the same - detail your site objectives, requirements and expected site functionality, then invite a number of CMS vendors to demonstrate their product so that you can produce a short-list of CMS products that look like they will meet your needs.  SharePoint is clearly just one of the possibilities.

    Kind regards

    Tim

    www.netcel.com

  6. Matt Tilbury Gold

    Director at Codehouse

    08 June 2009 10:01am

    Matt Tilbury

    Agree with Matt and Tim also.  Gather objectives and requirements and find/choose what fits.

    Given the SharePoint/MOSS route from your IT department then there are plenty of .NET WCMS to choose from.  Some play nice with SharePoint/MOSS which might ease the internal sales task.

    Try Sitecore's resources page - very Sitecore centric info, but valid points none-the-less.

    Give me a bell if you want the implementor's/integrator's point of view.

    Matt

    www.codehousegroup.com

  7. Anonymous

    09 June 2009 14:53pm

    Spending absurd sums of money on enterprise-level software is so 2000. For the sake of your designers, developers and end users, please avoid MOSS like the plague.

    http://friendlybit.com/css/sharepoint-2007-from-an-interface-developers-view/

    Microsoft has always been the slowest runner on the field when it comes to adhering to established web standards, and from my experience with MOSS, it really is something they should be utterly ashamed of.

    Save your company's cash and get ExpressionEngine instead.

  8. Ben Dalby

    Owner at B R Dalby Consulting

    09 June 2009 23:40pm

    Ben Dalby

    You might want to take a look at availability and prices of MOSS consultants also. IMHO it would be realistic to factor some of that into total time/cost of business case before you make decision.


    Ben

  9. Matthew O'Riordan Staff

    Founder / Director / Co-founder at easyBacklog / Aqueduct / Econsultancy

    10 June 2009 08:29am

    Matthew O'Riordan

    Ben, that is a very good point.

    Total Cost of Ownership varies immensely across systems and this varies both in the initial set up costs versus license costs as well as ongoing maintenance and support.  

    Our experience is that MOSS consultants who have experience and are good are not easy to find and pretty expensive.  The other issue we have had is that MOSS is a very large system so you're unlikely to find one person who has experience across all the services i.e. consultants normally have expertise in one area such as front end, admin, search etc.

    Matthew O'Riordan

    www.aqueduct.co.uk

  10. Cygnet Infotech

    Internet Marketing Executive at Cygnet Infotech

    19 June 2010 10:42am

    Cygnet Infotech

    Yes I do one of such softwares which is cms driven website buider designed using sharepoint technology. This software has been developed by cygnet infotech ltd a pioneer into software development.

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